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Bidadisndat

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Worm Farms
« on: October 29, 2008, 05:44:26 PM »
I mentioned Worm Farms in the Backyard Aquaponics thread, but it really is a topic in itself, so here's a starting point:

Worm-Farms are very much a worthwhile addition to the backyard veggie garden. They are simple to establish, easy to work, and not only help consume your kitchen waste, but also provide nutrients in a form more easily absorbed by plants than commercial chemical additives.
The worm poo, or 'castings' can be readily dug into garden beds, and the worm 'oil' is a pretty potent growth promoter too. (It should be diluted: about 1 pint of 'oil' to 9 pints of water.) Worms multiply very quickly in the right conditions, and could provide you with a steady stream of pocket money if you plan it properly: Castings, worm oil and the worms themselves, are all readily marketable.
This link will give you an idea of what the kits look like: http: http://www.happydranch.com/183.html
The 'Can-o-Worms' is imported from Australia, (I have two of those and they are good), though the rectangular type is U.S. manufactured, to the best of my knowlege. To my mind, they are both rather expensive, but then again, I'm a bit of a cheapskate when it comes to things I know I can make myself. If you want to make your own, the polystyrene boxes that are used for shipping vegetables to supermarkets are an ideal starting point: If you do use those, just be sure to keep your worm farm in a shady spot as sunlight makes them deteriorate quickly.
If anybody wants a bit more info please let me know.

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Re: Worm Farms
« Reply #1 on: October 29, 2008, 06:39:48 PM »
Are these worms at all similar to the everyday earthworm?  And do they naturalize to diferent climates?

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Re: Worm Farms
« Reply #2 on: October 29, 2008, 06:45:36 PM »
"Red Wigglers!  The Cadillac of Worms!"

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Re: Worm Farms
« Reply #3 on: October 29, 2008, 08:15:54 PM »
Dame, no you can NOT use earthworms. It would kill them.

Red wigglers, sometimes called "redworms", are the small worms (not really red) you find in piles of leaves in the autumn, particularly on cool, moist days. They are very common in my part of the world. They do not live in the soil, and will not die in a wormbin as long as you keep it well-aerated (they can't stand anaerobic conditions).

Compared to an earthworm, they average quite a bit smaller. Look similar, but slightly different color--maybe a little lighter in color. They are a slightly pinkish shade of brown--not really "red".

Bidadisndat, I would love to have a wormbin, but my first attempt was a horrible failure. I bought a kit, which was a mistake, as it was not sturdy enough.

I then tried using garbage cans with drainage and air holes drilled in, but the big problem is that there is not enough surface area especially at the top. My wife and kids murdered the worms burying them in slop. I kept telling them that you have to mix the kitchen scraps in with the bedding, or it will turn anaerobic and kill the worms. They refused to touch it, and just piled everything on top, smothering the worms.

I have seen folks make them here out of wood, but I wonder how long wood can last with that kind of contents.

Also, I would like to harvest the "goo" that drains out of the wormbins, because I am guessing it would be useful to build up my sandy soil.

One word of caution: vermicompost is "cold" compost, and therefor does not destroy fungus spores or weed seeds. I suggest not using it for seedlings, and to harvest it on sunny days when sunshine will kill the fungus. Probably not a problem for you but a significant problem for me.

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Re: Worm Farms
« Reply #4 on: October 29, 2008, 08:38:49 PM »
I think there is a worm farm within reasonable driving distance from here.  My composting problem is keeping it moist enough, I forget to water it and soon have a big pile of dried everything.  These guyes might just keep the process going long enough to accomplish something.  I certainly have no shortage of dry bedding.

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« Reply #5 on: October 29, 2008, 11:12:15 PM »
Atash, my husband made a 3'x21' wooden bin for me 5 years ago. We just replaced the hinged top as it was getting "tweaked" due to water damage (didn't weather proof it). Otherwise, the box itself is doing just fine. We also had to fill in the floor with 2x4's to keep the moles out!

I had tried the heavy-duty plastic tote thing. Followed the directions, but after a while I noticed dead worms. After taking the mess to a commercial worm farm (http://shallowcreekranch.com/), I was told that the container-way of making vermicompost is way too small if you have lots of waste (putting in more worms won't help). The worms have nowhere to "run" when everything turns hot or gets too acid. There is no composting, just putrifaction.

As for bedding, the best stuff is horse manure (fresh, but past the "hot" stage). It does not compact, but remains light and fluffy.  BTW, I recently read that the worming agents used on the horses do not pose a problem for composting worms as the wormer is used up by the time it leaves the animals.
 
I am trying to avoid putting in any tomato residue in the bin as my planting beds get overrun with volunteers. Other than the manure, kitchen scraps are the only other thing that goes in my worm bin. Weeds and larger items items go into a garden compost pile.

I have routinely used the vermicompost as a planting medium for spring seeding in the hothouse with no problem. Well, with the exception of a few tomatoes :laughing002: 
 

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« Reply #6 on: October 29, 2008, 11:29:41 PM »
I saw a show that had a worm farm on it once. All I really remember from it is that worms really like bread.
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Re: Worm Farms
« Reply #7 on: October 30, 2008, 02:45:09 PM »
beentheredonethat, I think you hit the nail on the head. It needs to have a big enough capacity, and you're right, the stuff can turn too acid and putrid.

My understanding is that worms don't eat the garbage directly, unless maybe something really soft. They can't--no teeth! Instead they eat what is being broken down by bacteria and/or fungi. So you need the right balance of microorganisms. Some of those micros are deadly to worms.

I have plenty of bedding material. Too much, I'm afraid. Compost does not break down fast here because of the cool, dry summers.
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« Reply #8 on: October 30, 2008, 11:03:46 PM »
O.K. We are looking at Worm Farming from two different aspects here:
First, the Worm Farm used principally as a source of vermicast, worm oil and livestock, and second, the Worm Farm used for the disposal of kitchen waste.
That's not to say that the two are mutually exclusive, however the purpose for which you intend using them does have some bearing on how you will have to set things up.
For the first, those kits that can be bought from Nurseries and some DIY stores are actually very good. In fact, I have ten of them - two of the round 'can-o-worms, and eight of the rectangular types.
Maybe a piece I wrote a couple of years ago might be helpful in explaining something of what we set up:

The Composting Compound and Worm Farm.

We have set up an area at the end of the vegetable gardens as a 'composting compound' and worm farm. For general composting I use the traditional method of having three side-by-side bins, which I constructed from treated timber. These are set up in the shade of trees, directly on bare ground. This is important as during decomposition of fresh material the temperature generated can be fatal to worms, however by having no base to the bins, worms are able to go deep out of harms way. They soon come back up when the pile has cooled down. A correct balance of moisture is important too: Too dry, and the thing won't work; too wet and the pile will become a stinking mess that won't work.
Our worm farm consists of ten 'Reln' Worm Farm boxes, and these easily handle most of our kitchen waste, along with a large amount of horse and cow manure, and grass cuttings. It's also important to add a bit of soil to the mix as, having no teeth, worms use it to help them grind the food down. I also occasionally add a shovel full or two of material from the compost bins, not so much to vary the worms diet, but to help add a few trace elements to the vermicast and worm oil. To make the grass cuttings more attractive to the worms, they are first left to dry out, then placed in barrels with a good handful or three of garden lime, and semi-dry horse manure that has been put through the garden mulcher - about two barrow loads of finely mulched grass to one load of manure. Water is added, so that the mix is wet but not soaked, and the barrels capped and left to compost for a couple of weeks, being given a few turns each day. At the end of this process you have barrels about 1/2 full of good compost, or worm food. My theory on this is that the bacterium in the manure, which is enjoyed by the worms, has been carried right through the grass cuttings. You could buy compost tumblers for doing this, but it's cheaper to use the 200 litre plastic barrels that pickles and olives, etc. are transported in, and support them on casters that have perhaps fallen off a shopping trolley. (Although, if your shopping trolley wheels are anything like those used around here, it's anyone's guess where your barrel could go.)
If you want to try worm farming on a small scale to start with, polystyrene boxes that are used to transport broccoli to supermarkets are also good to use as worm growing boxes, and the supermarkets are usually quite happy to part with them. (We call them 'pollycolly' boxes.) At present I am scouring the countryside for three or four more bath tubs to replace my current set-up. By installing these at a comfortable working height, I could also connect their outlets to a common collection pipe to deliver the liquid run-off to storage drums. My old worm farm boxes will then be available for teaching organic gardening at local primary schools. The worms from this project can be used to help feed the chickens, and the fish, whilst the contents of the worm boxes, vermicast, can be safely dug into the organic vegetable garden beds. The liquid drained from the base boxes, (worm oil), is an extremely rich fertilizer, and must be diluted (9:1) with water for use on the gardens, orchards or pastures. (You could also fill plastic containers with it, and sell it to others.) Whacko! – Another source of income!

BTW, The worms used are mainly tiger worms (Eisenia fetida), red worms (Lumbricus rubellus), and occasionally Indian blue worms (Perionyx excavatus). Earthworms, of which there are some 100 species native to the USA, will not, as Atash said, survive in compost farms or compost bins, and neither will compost worms survive very long in garden soil.
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Re: Worm Farms
« Reply #9 on: October 30, 2008, 11:32:26 PM »
Can the worms winter out in sub-zero termperatures and if so do they need protection?

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Re: Worm Farms
« Reply #10 on: October 31, 2008, 04:19:07 AM »
When it's cold, compost worms can go into a survival mode wherein they stop growing and breeding, but if you have extremely cold temperatures they may not survive at all, (unless of course your beds are large enough to retain the heat of composting). If you have the space you can provide plenty of insulation around your worm bed by using bales of straw, and add enough fresh, active composting material on a regular basis to keep the bed warm. Another method is to run a hot-water hose through the bed, however the cost of energy expended in keeping the bed warm may make this approach impractical.  If you have a basement, you could install a few boxes there during the worst of the cold season for overwintering - in fact some people have their farms set up in a basement on a permanent basis.

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« Reply #11 on: November 02, 2008, 03:38:41 PM »
I wonder if "subzero" means different things to folks in different parts of the world.

Dame, if you mean subzero FAHRENHEIT, then no, they won't. They are cold-blooded. In my part of the world, it doesn't get that cold, so that worms just wiggle deeper and deeper into piles of compost to avoid the milder frosts I have.

If your climate is that cold, they would need some sort of protection. They like it cool (heat kill 'em too), but won't survive as wormsickles.
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« Reply #12 on: November 02, 2008, 04:55:26 PM »
OK, they won't survive as wormsickles, so back to the drawing board.  Any idea how fast they multiply so a starter group could be overwintered, perhaps in the rootcellar and moved back out in the spring with the rest of the poted zone 5-7/8 stuff. 

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« Reply #13 on: November 02, 2008, 11:13:11 PM »
Breeding stops and cocoons go dormant during winter, and slows down a lot in mid-summer, however on average the home worm farmer can expect the stock to double every three months. In ideal conditions it can be a lot more than that, but it needs a comprehensive management plan to cater for accomodation, feeding, (they eat the equivalent of their own weight every day), and harvesting - (that's a lot of fun if you're doing it by hand!). If you're really interested in getting started, even if only in a small way, I'd recommend borrowing a book on the subject from the library, so that you have an idea of what you might be in for. Some books can get very technical in the way they describe the complete worm-farming system, and are more often than not aimed at the person who wants to enter the game on a proffesional basis, however simpler books, e.g. for those aimed at school kids, are more than sufficient to get you going without worrying about the technicalities. (Ain't it usually the way, lol.) (Not that I mind, but that would also save me a lot of typing too!) Any any case, such books can make interesting reading anyway.

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« Reply #14 on: November 03, 2008, 06:07:30 PM »
beentheredonethat, The junior versions of a book would be a good place to start.  The big ones seem way more complicated than I would probably have time for.