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so, how about a $30 trillion dollar stimulus?
« on: September 08, 2010, 06:27:15 AM »
horrifying that idiots like this can actually type out opinions

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/09/06/opinion/06krugman.html?_r=2&src=me&ref=homepage
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Re: so, how about a $30 trillion dollar stimulus?
« Reply #1 on: September 08, 2010, 07:33:19 AM »
And get paid for them.
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Re: so, how about a $30 trillion dollar stimulus?
« Reply #2 on: September 08, 2010, 10:01:06 AM »
Dear Editor,

Paul Krugman failed to predict this crisis because he doesn't understand debt's cancerous effect on the individual, the economy, and the nation.

Steve Keen predicted the crisis and was awarded the Revere Award for his early warning.  He received nearly twice as many votes as runner up, economist Nouriel Roubini.

Keen discovered the debt problem when he was hired as an expert witness in an Australian foreclosure.  He then discovered an environment of excessive debt in Australia and the US on the order of that preceding the 1890 & 1929 Depressions.

The American solution has been to bail out AIG, Fannie, and Freddie...  In short, our congress has transferred the bad debt of banks and corporations to our children and grandchildren.  It has already been done.  Our heirs are now encumbered.  There is no going back.  The present value of our children's future taxes has already been borrowed and given to bankrupt banks and corporations. 

What should have been done?  The traditional solution was to let bankrupt companies and individuals go bankrupt.  There was pain.  But it was a quick, clean, fair way to eliminate cancerous debt.

The Great Depression was pro-longed because FDR's programs delayed the elimination of debt.

Steve Keen & Dr. Michael Hudson (Kucinich's former economics advisor) entertain the idea of a Biblical style Jubilee, where debt is forgiven in a major way. 

In my opinion the market solution of bankruptcy is the way to go because that is the way our society has dealt with excessive debt.  Concepts of 'Jubilee' do not exist in our culture or our legal system.  In any case, overbearing debt must be dealt with as fairly as possible.  Congress has infinitely complicated this matter by transferring private debt to our children.

Krugman is irrelevant because he doesn't understand debt and thinks we need more of it.


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Re: so, how about a $30 trillion dollar stimulus?
« Reply #3 on: September 08, 2010, 10:51:46 AM »
Krugman is a shill.

2010 is NOT 1938, never has been never will be

it is a completely different world operating in a different model/ paradigm
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Re: so, how about a $30 trillion dollar stimulus?
« Reply #4 on: September 08, 2010, 11:38:31 AM »
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Krugman is a shill.

I agree. Which is probably why he won that Nobel Prize. The Nobel Prize has turned into a means of promoting shills for dubious projects.  :angry020:
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Re: so, how about a $30 trillion dollar stimulus?
« Reply #5 on: September 08, 2010, 01:25:01 PM »
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Krugman is a shill.

I agree. Which is probably why he won that Nobel Prize. The Nobel Prize has turned into a means of promoting shills for dubious projects.  :angry020:

Geez you can say that again...... It has been that way for a long time in some cases though......

and offdablip... i agree totally. the variables are so vastly different, its rather insane, an intelligent person could make such broad strokes in relation the two.


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Re: so, how about a $30 trillion dollar stimulus?
« Reply #6 on: September 08, 2010, 06:31:59 PM »
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Krugman is a shill.

I agree. Which is probably why he won that Nobel Prize. The Nobel Prize has turned into a means of promoting shills for dubious projects.  :angry020:

Teleb Nassim referred to the NPP as a great predictor of impending disproof of theory upon which it was awarded.
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Re: so, how about a $30 trillion dollar stimulus?
« Reply #7 on: September 08, 2010, 07:17:55 PM »
You mean like Obama winning one for picking fights with Iran?

Apparently the Nobel committee was leaned on for that one. But they seem to have chronically poor judgment, like awarding one to Rigoberta Menchu for her falsified autobiography. They didn't even notice that her brother Nicolas was still alive, despite having described how he died of malnutrition as a baby.
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Re: so, how about a $30 trillion dollar stimulus?
« Reply #8 on: September 08, 2010, 08:26:30 PM »
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Teleb Nassim referred to the NPP as a great predictor of impending disproof of theory upon which it was awarded.

as someone that works in the field, they still are spot on in chemistry and medicine , MOL , except for the guy that got cheated outta
the green fluorescent protein award
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Re: so, how about a $30 trillion dollar stimulus?
« Reply #9 on: September 09, 2010, 01:48:46 PM »
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Teleb Nassim referred to the NPP as a great predictor of impending disproof of theory upon which it was awarded.

as someone that works in the field, they still are spot on in chemistry and medicine , MOL , except for the guy that got cheated outta
the green fluorescent protein award

MOL?
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Re: so, how about a $30 trillion dollar stimulus?
« Reply #10 on: September 09, 2010, 05:07:41 PM »
more or less
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Re: so, how about a $30 trillion dollar stimulus?
« Reply #11 on: September 09, 2010, 05:35:14 PM »
Is that the guy that came up with the glow-in-the-dark pig?
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Re: so, how about a $30 trillion dollar stimulus?
« Reply #12 on: September 10, 2010, 07:42:42 AM »
GFP

green luciferase protein

yes, it is all based on luciferase.

the guy discovered the gene, then he promptly sent it out to other researchers
who then took credit for his discovery and they got the Nobel prize for it.

LOL! the poor dude is now driving taxis is Dallas  :confused009:
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Re: so, how about a $30 trillion dollar stimulus?
« Reply #13 on: September 10, 2010, 07:53:22 AM »
he shoulda know better than to be messin around with lucifer!
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Re: so, how about a $30 trillion dollar stimulus?
« Reply #14 on: September 10, 2010, 09:08:22 AM »
it's what makes fireflys glow
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