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How hyperinflation will happen
« on: August 23, 2010, 05:53:59 PM »
Very interesting post on zerohedge.com
http://www.zerohedge.com/article/guest-post-how-hyperinflation-will-happen

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Most people dismiss the very notion of hyperinflation occurring in the United States as something only tin-foil hatters, gold-bugs, and Right-wing survivalists drool about. In fact, most sensible people don’t even bother arguing the issue at all—everyone knows that only fools bother arguing with a bigger fool.

A minority, though—and God bless ’em—actually do go ahead and go through the motions of talking to the crazies ranting about hyperinflation. These amiable souls diligently point out that in a deflationary environment—where commodity prices are more or less stable, there are downward pressures on wages, asset prices are falling, and credit markets are shrinking—inflation is impossible. Therefore, hyperinflation is even more impossible.

This outlook seems sensible—if we fall for the trap of thinking that hyperinflation is an extention of inflation. If we think that hyperinflation is simply inflation on steroids—inflation-plus—inflation with balls—then it would seem to be the case that, in our current deflationary economic environment, hyperinflation is not simply a long way off, but flat-out ridiculous.

But hyperinflation is not an extension or amplification of inflation. Inflation and hyperinflation are two very distinct animals. They look the same—because in both cases, the currency loses its purchasing power—but they are not the same.

Inflation is when the economy overheats: It’s when an economy’s consumables (labor and commodities) are so in-demand because of economic growth, coupled with an expansionist credit environment, that the consumables rise in price. This forces all goods and services to rise in price as well, so that producers can keep up with costs. It is essentially a demand-driven phenomena.

Hyperinflation is the loss of faith in the currency. Prices rise in a hyperinflationary environment just like in an inflationary environment, but they rise not because people want more money for their labor or for commodities, but because people are trying to get out of the currency. It’s not that they want more money—they want less of the currency: So they will pay anything for a good which is not the currency.

Right now, the U.S. government is indebted to about 100% of GDP, with a yearly fiscal deficit of about 10% of GDP, and no end in sight. For its part, the Federal Reserve is purchasing Treasuries, in order to finance the fiscal shortfall, both directly (the recently unveiled QE-lite) and indirectly (through the Too Big To Fail banks). The Fed is satisfying two objectives: One, supporting the government in its efforts to maintain aggregate demand levels, and two, supporting asset prices, and thereby prevent further deflationary erosion. The Fed is calculating that either path—increase in aggregate demand levels or increase in aggregate asset values—leads to the same thing: A recovery in the economy.

This recovery is not going to happen—that’s the news we’ve been getting as of late. Amid all this hopeful talk about “avoiding a double-dip”, it turns out that we didn’t avoid a double-dip—we never really managed to claw our way out of the first dip. No matter all the stimulus, no matter all the alphabet-soup liquidity windows over the past 2 years, the inescapable fact is that the economy has been—and is headed—down.

But both the Federal government and the Federal Reserve are hell-bent on using the same old tired tools to “fix the economy”—stimulus on the one hand, liquidity injections on the other. (See my discussion of The Deficit here.)

It’s those very fixes that are pulling us closer to the edge. Why? Because the economy is in no better shape than it was in September 2008—and both the Federal Reserve and the Federal government have shot their wad. They got nothin’ left, after trillions in stimulus and trillions more in balance sheet expansion—

—but they have accomplished one thing: They have undermined Treasuries. These policies have turned Treasuries into the spit-and-baling wire of the U.S. financial system—they are literally the only things holding the whole economy together.

In other words, Treasuries are now the New and Improved Toxic Asset. Everyone knows that they are overvalued, everyone knows their yields are absurd—yet everyone tiptoes around that truth as delicately as if it were a bomb. Which is actually what it is.

There is more, read it if you can.
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Re: How hyperinflation will happen
« Reply #1 on: August 24, 2010, 08:50:14 AM »
Very good!

Zerohedge wrote:
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Hyperinflation is the loss of faith in the currency. Prices rise in a hyperinflationary environment just like in an inflationary environment, but they rise not because people want more money for their labor or for commodities, but because people are trying to get out of the currency. It’s not that they want more money—they want less of the currency: So they will pay anything for a good which is not the currency.

He makes a very important distinction between inflation and hyperinflation. Hyperinflation is when there is a panicked desire to get out of the currency.

So far that hasn't happened.

There has been a panicked attempt to get into Treasuries for safety's sake.  I can't imagine how that can be called, "safe" since the Treasury borrowings only go to pay debt, i.e. Ponzi.

I'll have to read the rest of the article....

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Re: How hyperinflation will happen
« Reply #2 on: August 25, 2010, 11:06:00 AM »
The rest of the article:

Gonzala Lira is the author of the article.

The scenario in short:
*Something causes someone to liquidate some of their treasuries.  It could be anything, let's say it is an oil price spike.
*Treasury prices fall a little, so the FED starts buying them (monetizing)
*Other treasury holders start selling
* So the FED continues buying them (more monetization)
*Former-treasury-holders re-deploy their cash into oil & other commodities causing prices to rise.

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So far, so good.  But this scenario still needs to reconcile with reality. 

The Too-Big-To-Fail can hold real estate & value it at whatever they want, but it won't clear the market until the prices are dropped.

Similarly, they can buy commodity futures at whatever price they want, pushing paper prices up.  But at what price will they clear the market? 

A lower price!

Overwhelming debt at the end-user, in the real economy is the problem.  Until this is addressed, there will be no increase in the money supply (inflation.)  As debt is defaulted upon, the money supply declines.  As debt is repaid, the money supply declines.

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Re: How hyperinflation will happen
« Reply #3 on: August 26, 2010, 08:23:10 PM »
Seems plausible to me. On an orderly hyperinflation, I would think real estate prices would start spiking... that was my personal thought.
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Re: How hyperinflation will happen
« Reply #4 on: August 26, 2010, 11:35:34 PM »
http://www.goldinvestor.com/articles/norway-subscriber-on-inflationdeflation.html

Ben Bernanke is not omniscient: He didn't see this coming.

Ben Bernanke is not omnipotent: At tremendous cost to future generations The Too Big To Fail are on temporary life support.

Most of the world, like most Americans, are short the dollar.

The dollar is the worlds senior currency. (most debt is denominated in dollars)

'Debt' is equivalent to shorting the dollar.  Most people & most of the world has shorted the dollar and are getting margin calls.  They will have to liquidate assets to meet margin (repay loans.)

The few people who have money, are finding the best investment out there is to repay loans.

In a fractional reserve system:
Debt repayment diminishes the money supply. 
Default through non-payment diminishes the money supply.

Ben Bernanke's monetization, to date, has been pathetically small in comparison to the evaporation of fictitious capital and the crash in the velocity of money.

Successful monetization would need to start with $10,000 distributed to every man, woman, and child in the US.  Then Ben would have to pray that this money isn't used to pay down debt (but it probably would be!)

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EDITOR’S RESPONSE:

QUESTION: Can the Fed or other central banks print endless amounts of money?

ANSWER: Yes, they can, but that doesn’t mean people will accept it.

QUESTION: Then doesn’t that mean the velocity of money will rise? In other words doesn’t that mean that people rapidly and at a faster and faster pace dump paper in exchange for real tangible assets and thus drive prices of goods and services to ever-higher levels, as they begin to understand the paper money is becoming increasingly worthless? Doesn’t that mean that a tremendous growth in money supply will result in a tremendous growth in overall prices?

ANSWER: Yes, if people lose confidence in the dollar they will exchange it for tangible assets. But so far, we have not seen confidence lost in the dollar, in spite of trillions of dollars of money created out of thin air in a very short period of time. That is not to say it won’t happen eventually that everyone dumps dollars and buys stuff. But so far quite the contrary has taken place, and for the U.S. dollar, which is arguably the most over-printed currency in history, when credit defaults start to occur (as happened following the Lehman Brothers failure), becomes the “strongest” currency in the world, and tangible assets in general and to a lesser extent even gold in nominal terms will fall. And that happened even as trillions of new dollars were being printed. Not only that but the bond markets rose to even higher levels and interest rates fell.

QUESTION: But isn’t this just a temporary phenomenon? Don’t you think ultimately that an infinite amount of dollars will result in a loss of confidence in the currency?

ANSWER: I definitely think that is a possibility. If the U.S. were not the world’s senior currency, I would think that would not only be a possibility but an almost certainty. But, for the moment, the U.S. dollar remains the world’s reserve currency though there are signs the Chinese may have their eyes on gaining that status some day.

QUESTION: Why do you think reserve currency status protects the U.S. against a possible hyperinflation?

ANSWER: Bob Hoye has researched history and examined what happens to the senior currency when major credit markets contract. And his work demonstrates that the senior currency always gets stronger during the contraction phases of these cycles. To Bob and to me as well as to Dr. Robert McHugh and others I have talked about in this letter and interviewed on my radio show, it appears that we are now in the sixth largest credit contraction in the last 300 years.

Of course at the moment we are seeing a correction of the major decline following the Lehman Brothers collapse on the heels of massive stimulus. But all the stimulus has done is created more debt at a much faster pace than income has grown, such that we are now in a more insolvent position than before the stimulus. And when the next major credit market default starts to snowball into the next global credit contraction, the dollar is likely to get stronger, pushing downward pressure on interest rates once again.

QUESTION: But why does the senior currency have to get stronger during a major credit contraction?

ANSWER: In a fractional reserve banking system, when you take out a loan, whether you realize it or not you are shorting the currency. And that is part of the risk trade, as they put it, these days. You borrow money because you have faith that you can put that money to good use in buying a car or a home or perhaps in building your business. But it is a short position against the currency.

Now think what happens when the credit system collapses. The margin clerk calls you up and demands payment of your loan or your bank refuses to renew your credit line or your credit card, which is exactly what is happening to millions of consumers right now. In order to repay your loans or reduce your balance you have to sell items that you would rather not sell, and that puts downward pressure on prices. Or in the case of millions of consumers, it means not buying the things they used to buy on credit. In short, during a credit implosion like we saw following Lehman Brothers, people have to cover their short currency positions to buy the currency in question. That puts downward pressure on prices and upward pressure on the currency. And since the dollar is by far the currency with the most debt, when this process goes global, the dollar becomes “the strongest” currency.

QUESTION: But why would the dollar continue to be sought after if there are unlimited amounts of it in circulation?

ANSWER: As long as the Chinese, Japanese, and BRIC countries continue to fund U.S. debt, the dollar will likely remain the world’s reserve currency and the dynamic I just noted will remain in place. After Lehman Brothers, the Fed and Treasury intervention stopped the fall. But it did not fix the problem. In fact it made it worse, so that the ultimate deflation could be and in fact would be all the worse.

QUESTION: What happens though if the Chinese, Japanese, and others decide not to continue to buy U.S. Treasuries?

ANSWER: I do believe that is when you might be right about the emergence of inflation. So I think watching what the Chinese are doing in the gold markets and how they are taking their dollars to buy up assets around the world is something that is most important to keep an eye on. To what extent the ruling elite (Bilderbergs, Trilateralists, CFR, and others discussed on my radio show with the likes of Estulin, Salbuchi, Griffin, and others) are able to keep the globalization process linked to the Chinese, Russians, and others, my thinking is that this fiat-money-creating party can go on for some time even though the pathology of the system grows even faster.

But I honestly cannot come to any conclusions about which way this thing is going to go. I do believe that Dr. Robert McHugh’s view that if taxes were refunded for the past three years that money would be in the hands of the masses and that could trigger an inflationary problem. But keep in mind that those who print paper money will fight tooth and nail to con the American people as well as the Chinese and Japanese that their paper money is worth as much as possible.

If you really believe that we live in a country in which policymakers give even a rat’s behind about the masses and that your vote and mine will make any difference with respect to policy, then you could perhaps make a stronger case for inflation. But here we have the most leftist administration in history in America doing nothing but helping those who control the system get richer at the cost of the middle class. They will of course argue a falsehood, namely, that bailing out the rich is in the best interest of everyone even as each of those bailouts drives us deeper into a fascist economic system.

QUESTION: But don’t you believe that Ben is omniscient and omnipotent?

ANSWER: No, I do not. Your statement that “Ben will never stand for deflation” I think is correct, but so what? Are you not ascribing the godly attributes, omniscience and omnipotence, to Ben Bernanke, Tim Geithner, and others, who are our policymakers? I think the economy, not to mention human psychology and mass market psychology, is so complicated that it is impossible for Uncle Ben or any other human being or any collection of human beings operating the American “Politburo” at the Fed or Treasury. Therefore, even if they wanted to inflate the economy up to a certain point, I’m not sure they would be able. Take the panic following the Lehman Brothers failure, for example. I do not think there was any chance that decline was by design. It was beyond the control of the Fed. And it is my sincere belief that we are likely to have more of those kinds of events in the not too distant future and most likely this fall. Recently, I was speaking to Bob Hoye, who thinks it likely we will test the March 2009 lows this fall. If he is right, some major profits are going to be made by owning FAZ.

QUESTION: But are you not negating the upside returns by owning FAZ while the market is rising now?

ANSWER: You are absolutely right. But my belief is that initially at least the gold shares are likely to get taken down with the general market. Owning FAZ can help keep capital in place so that when the gold shares decline, we can snap them up at bargain basement prices. Moreover, what is also apparent to me, thanks again to the excellent work of Bob Hoye, is that during the deflationary implosions, gold mining economics improve dramatically as the real price of gold rises, vis-à-vis the cost of getting it out of the ground. And so, while liquidity needs will no doubt take the gold shares down this fall along with the general market, having FAZ should in theory leave you with capital to buy gold shares at a time when they are extremely undervalued.

Robert Blumen on Inflation/deflation. Once again, those of you who may want a really informed view of the battle between inflation and deflation will not want to miss my discussion with Austrian economic thinker and writer, Robert Blumen this week on my radio show. August 10 Program

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Re: How hyperinflation will happen
« Reply #5 on: August 26, 2010, 11:50:19 PM »
Regarding my previous post in this thread, Editor is Jay Taylor.  Jay Taylor is a long-time gold bug.  He was a deflationist up until May of 2007 or 2008.   I was always impressed with his writing and thinking.  He seems to be back in the deflation camp. 

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Re: How hyperinflation will happen
« Reply #6 on: August 26, 2010, 11:55:18 PM »
Seems plausible to me. On an orderly hyperinflation, I would think real estate prices would start spiking... that was my personal thought.

No such thing as an "orderly hyperinflation", Bud.  :happy112:

Bear in mind that Zimbabwe is largely rural, and although agriculture has pretty much broken down, people do have the possibility of growing vegetables on land around their houses. In a country such as the USA which is overwhelmingly suburban and urban (even a lot of rural housing is "exurban" ie, suburban style tract houses detached from any city), if money loses its value at an exponential rate, then a great deal of the economy would shut down for lack of an effective remittance system.

Hyperinflations are worse than depressions. There is a lower limit to prices; people pull stuff off the market before they give it away for free (or pay people to haul it away!). There is no upper bound. Moreover, depressions resolve themselves. Hyperinflations do not. One currency goes to zero, and so does the next, just like the Assignat (French Revolutionary currency) went to zero, and so did the Mandat. It's hard to restore broken trust.

In either case, goods and assets essentially go illiquid due to lack of means of third party exchange (money). Too much or too little, either way it's hard to trade. In hyperinflations, people often resort to barter, because nobody wants to accept the "hot potato". Barter is not easy to accomplish though.

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Re: How hyperinflation will happen
« Reply #7 on: August 27, 2010, 06:34:25 AM »
Since money is concentrated in 5% of the population, I would guess that that is where most of the activity would be. 95% of the population has 5% of the money, and can't do much to change prices, so whatever that 5% did would dicate things. That's what I meant by "orderly" because it wouldn't necessarily by "panic buying" if they have control.
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Hyperinflation, Part II: What It Will Look Like
« Reply #8 on: August 27, 2010, 07:37:30 AM »
Hyperinflation, Part II: What It Will Look Like
http://www.zerohedge.com/article/guest-post-hyperinflation-part-ii-what-it-will-look
I usually don’t do follow-up pieces to any of my posts. But my recent longish piece, describing how hyperinflation might happen in the United States, clearly struck a nerve.

It was a long, boring, snowy piece of macro-economic policy speculation, discussing Treasury yields, Federal Reserve Board monetary reaction, and the difference between inflation and hyperinflation—but considering the traffic it generated, I might as well been discussing relative breast size in the porn industry. With pictures.

Essentially, I argued that Treasury bonds are the New and Improved Toxic Assets. I argued that, if there was a run on Treasuries, the Federal Reserve—in its anti-deflationary zeal, and its efforts to prop up bond market prices—would over-react, and set off a run on commodities. This, I argued, would trigger hyperinflation.
 
The disproportionate attention my post garnered is indicative of people’s current fears. As I’ve said before, people aren’t blind or stupid, even if they often act that way. People are worried—they’re worried about the current state of affairs: Massive quantitative easing, toxic assets replaced by the full faith and credit of the U.S. government in the shape of Treasuries, fiscal debt which cannot possibly be repaid, a second leg down in the Global Depression that seems endless and only getting worse—people are scared. Many readers gave me quite a bit of useful feedback, critiques, suggestions and comments on the piece—clearly, what I was discussing touched on a deeply felt concern.

However, there were two issues that many readers had a hard time wrapping their minds around, with regards to a hyperinflationary event:
 
The first was, Where does all the money come from, for hyperinflation to happen? The question wasn’t put as baldly as that—it was wrapped up in sophisticated discussions about M1, M2 and M3 money supply, as well as clever talk about the velocity of money—the acceleration of money—the anti-lock brakes on money. There were even equations thrown around, for good measure.

But stripped of all the high-falutin’ language, the question was, “Where’s all the dough gonna come from?” After all, as we know from our history books, hyperinflation involves people hoisting bundles and bundles of high-denomination bills which aren’t worth a damn, and tossing them into the chimney—’cause the bundles of cash are cheaper than firewood. If the dollar were to crash, where would all these bundles of $100 bills come from?
 
The second question was, Why will commodities rise, while equities, real estate and other assets fall? In other words, if there is an old fashioned run on a currency—in this case, the dollar, the world’s reserve currency—why would people get out of the dollar into commodities only, rather than into equities and real estate and other assets?
 
In this post, I’m going to address both of these issues.


Apart from what happened with the Weimar Republic in the 1920’s, advanced Western economies have no experience with hyperinflation. (I actually think that the high inflation that struck the dollar in the 1970’s, and which was successfully choked off by Paul Volcker, was in fact an incipient bout of commodity-driven hyperinflation—but that’s for some other time.) Though there were plenty of hyperinflationary events in the XIX century and before, after the Weimar experience, the advanced economies learned their lesson—and learned it so well, in fact, that it’s been forgotten.

However, my personal history gives me a slight edge in this discussion: During the period 1970–’73, Chile experienced hyperinflation, brought about by the failed and corrupt policies of Salvador Allende and his Popular Unity Government. Though I was too young to experience it first hand, my family and some of my older friends have vivid memories of the Allende period—vivid memories that are actually closer to nightmares.

The causes of Chile’s hyperinflation forty years ago were vastly different from what I believe will cause American hyperinflation now. But a slight detour through this history is useful to our current predicament.
 
To begin: In 1970, Salvador Allende was elected president by roughly a third of the population. The other two-thirds voted for the centrist Christian Democrat candidate, or for the center-right candidate in roughly equal measure. Allende’s election was a fluke.

He wasn’t a centrist, no matter what the current hagiography might claim: Allende was a hard-core Socialist, who headed a Hard Left coalition called the Unidad Popular—the Popular Unity (UP, pronounced “oo-peh”). This coalition—Socialists, Communists, and assorted Left parties—took over the administration of the country, and quickly implemented several “reforms”, which were designed to “put Chile on the road to Socialism”.
 
Land was expropriated—often by force—and given to the workers. Companies and mines were also nationalized, and also given to the workers. Of course, the farms, companies and mines which were stripped from their owners weren’t inefficient or ineptly run—on the contrary, Allende and his Unidad Popular thugs stole farms, companies and mines from precisely the “blood-thirsty Capitalists” who best treated their workers, and who were the most fair towards them.
 
Allende’s government also put UP-loyalists in management positions in those nationalized enterprises—a first step towards implementing a Leninist regime, whereby the UP would have “political control” over the means of production and distribution. From speeches and his actions, it’s clear that Allende wanted to implement a Maoist-Leninist regime, with himself as Supreme Leader.
 
One of the key policy initiative Allende carried out was wage and price controls. In order to appease and co-opt the workers, Allende’s regime simultaneously froze prices of basic goods and services, and augmented wages by decree.
 
At first, this measure worked like a charm: Workers had more money, but goods and services still had the same old low prices. So workers were happy with Allende: They went on a shopping spree—and rapidly emptied stores and warehouses of consumer goods and basic products. Allende and the UP Government then claimed it was right-wing, anti-Revolutionary “acaparadores”—hoarders—who were keeping consumer goods from the workers. Right.
 
Meanwhile, private companies—forced to raise worker wages while maintaining their same price structures—quickly went bankrupt: So then, of course, they were taken over by the Allende government, “in the name of the people”. Key industries were put on the State dole, as it were, and made to continue their operations at a loss, so as to satisfy internal demand. If there was a cash shortfall, the Allende government would simply print more escudos and give them to the now State-controlled companies, which would then pay the workers.

This is how hyperinflation started in Chile. Workers had plenty of cash in hand—but it was useless, because there were no goods to buy.
 
So Allende’s government quickly instituted the Juntas de Abastecimiento y Control de Precios (“Unions of Supply and Price Controls”, known as JAP). These were locally formed boards, composed of loyal Party members, who decided who in a given neighborhood received consumer products, and who did not. Naturally, other UP-loyalists had preference—these Allende backers received ration cards, with which to buy consumer goods and basic staples.
 
Of course, those people perceived as “unfriendly” to Allende and the UP Government either received insufficient rations for their families, or no rations at all, if they were vocally opposed to the Allende regime and its policies.
 
Very quickly, a black market in goods and staples arose. At first, these black markets accepted escudos. But with each passing month, more and more escudos were printed into circulation by the Allende government, until by late ’72, black marketeers were no longer accepting escudos. Their mantra became, “Sólo dólares”: Only dollars.
 
Hyperinflation had arrived in Chile.
 
(Most Chileans, myself included, find ourselves both amused and irritated, whenever Americans self-righteously claim that Nixon ruined Chile’s economy, and thereby derailed Allende’s “Socialist dream”. Yes, according to Kissinger’s memoirs, Nixon did in fact tell the CIA that he wanted Chile’s economy to “scream”—but Allende did such a bang-up job of fucking up Chile’s economy all on his own that, by the time Richard Helms got around to implementing his pissant little plots against the Chilean economy, there was not much left to ruin.)
 
One of the effects of Chile’s hyperinflation was the collapse in asset prices.
 
This would seem counterintuitive. After all, if the prices of consumer goods and basic staples are rising in a hyperinflationary environment, then asset prices should rise as well—right? Equities should rise in price—since more money is chasing after the same number of stock. Real estate prices should rise also—and for the same reason. Right?
 
Actually, wrong—and for a simple reason: Once basic necessities are unmet, and remain unmet for a sustained period of time, any asset will be willingly and instantly sacrificed, in order to meet that basic need.
 
To put it in simple terms: If you were dying of thirst in the middle of the desert, would you give up your family heirloom diamonds, in exchange for a gallon of water? The answer is obvious—yes. You would sacrifice anything and everyting—instantly—in order to meet your basic needs, or those of your family.

So as the situation in Chile deteriorated in ’72 and into ’73, the stock market collapsed, the housing market collapsed—everything collapsed, as people either cashed out of their assets in order to buy basic goods and staples on the black market, or cashed out so as to leave the country altogether. No asset class was safe, from this sell-off—it was across-the-board, and total.

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Re: How hyperinflation will happen
« Reply #9 on: August 27, 2010, 07:38:15 AM »
part II continued.....

Now let’s return to the possibility of hyperinflation in the United States:

If there were a sudden collapse in the Treasury bond market, I argued that sellers would take their cash and put them into commodities. My reasoning was, they would seek a sure store of value. If Treasury bonds ceased to be that store of value, then people would invest in the next best thing, which would be commodities, especially precious and industrial metals, as well as oil—in other words, non-perishable commodities.

Some people argued this point with me. They argued many different approaches to the problem, but essentially, it all boiled down to the argument that commodities and precious metals have no intrinsic value.

Actually, I think they’re right. In a strict sense, only oxygen, food and water have intrinsic value to human beings—everything else is superfluous. Therefore the value of everything else is arbitrary.
 
Yet both gold and silver have, historically, been considered valuable. Setting aside a theoretical or mathematical construct that would justify the value of gold and silver, look at it from a practical standpoint: If I went to a farmer with five ounces of silver, would he give me a sack of grain? Probably. If I offered him an ounce of gold for two or three pigs, would he give them to me? Again, probably.
 
Where there is a human society, there is a need to exchange. Where there is a need to exchange, a medium of exchange will soon appear. Gold and silver (and copper and brass and other metals) have served that purpose for literally millennia, but then they were replaced by paper.
 
Right now, there are two forms of paper currency: Actual dollars, and Treasury bonds. One is a medium of exchange, the other a store of value.

If Treasuries—the store of value—were to collapse in price, and the Fed—as I predict—tried everything in its power to at least initially prop up their prices, would those sellers who managed to get out of Treasuries in time then turn around and invest in even dodgier bits of paper, like stocks? Or REIT’s? Or even precious metal ETF’s?

No they would not: They would get out of Treasuries—supposedly the “safest” investment there is—and get into something even safer—something even more tangible: Actual commodities. Not ETF’s, not even futures (or anything else that entails counterparty risk)—sellers of Treasuries would get into actual, hard commodities. Because if suddenly even the safest of all investment vehicles is now unsafe, do you really want to get behind the wheel of an even more unsafe vehicle, like stocks or corporate bonds or ETF’s? I mean, c’mon: If Treasuries crash, what else might crash?

That’s why people in a Treasury panic would buy commodities. This ballooning of non-perishable commodities would be as a means to store value. Because that’s what people do in a panic—they batten down the hatches, and go into what’s safest. When the stock markets tanked in the Fall of ’08, where did all that sellers’ cash go? To Treasuries—because it was then considered the safest store of value. Commodities suffered in comparison—gold took a bit of a hit, as did the other precious metals—but Treasuries ballooned as the equities markets tanked.
 
But if Treasuries—the ultimate store of value—now tanked? If the last sure-thing in paper-based stores of value took a hit, where would people go to both store value, and have ready access to that value?

Commodities. And this rush to commodities, I argued, would trigger hyperinflation.

Now, I said I would answer two questions—one was why commodities would outpace all other asset classes in a Treasury panic and subsequent hyperinflation. The other question was, “Where’s all the dough to feed my fireplace gonna come from, in a hyperinflationary event?”

The first wave of dollars in a hyperinflationary event will come from people’s savings accounts.

If Treasuries tank, and the markets all barrel into commodities, then prices will rise for regular consumers—this should not be a controversial inference. What would consumers do, with suddenly much higher gas prices, and soon much higher food prices? Simple: They’ll bust open their piggy banks, whatsoever those piggy banks might happen to be: 401(k)s, whatever equities they might have, etc.

But if the higher consumer prices continue—or become worse—what will happen to the 320 million American consumers? They’ll start buying more gas now, rather than wait around for tomorrow—and the market will react to this. How? Two way: Prices of commodities will rise even further—and asset prices will fall even lower.

Again, the man in the desert, the diamonds, and the water: If American consumers are getting hit at the gas station and the supermarket, they’ll start selling everything so as to buy gas, heating oil (most especially) and foodstuffs. The Treasury panic will thus be transfered to the average consumer—from Wall Street to Main Street by way of $15 a gallon gas prices, and $10 a gallon heating oil prices.

All other consumer prices would soon follow the leads of gas, heating oil and food.

In the above bit of Chilean history, I described how the Allende government printed up escudos to make up for the shortfall in nationalized businesses that was produced by their policy of hiking wages, while at the same time fixing prices.

This is a completely different way to hyperinflation than the way I envision it for the American economy—but once the American economy gets there, the effects of hyperinflation will be exactly the same: People will try to get out of assets in order to get hold of commodities. To get all eccy about it, money velocity would approach infinity, as money supply remains (at first) fixed, yet in the panic over commodities, aggregate demand as measured by aggregate transactions goes vertical.

Would there be Federal government intervention of some sort? Most definitely—people would be screaming for it. Would food rationing be implemented? Probably, and probably by way of the current Food Stamps program. Troops on the streets, protecting gas stations and supermarkets? Curfews to prevent looting? Palliative dollar printing? Yes, yes, and very likely yes.

That last bit—palliative dollar-printing: That’s the key. When palliative dollar-printing happens, it will be the final stages of hyperinflation—it’s when sensible people ought to realize that the crisis is almost over, and that a new normal will soon appear. But this stage will be fucking awful.

Palliative dollar printing will take place when the Federal government simply runs out of options. Smart economists will get on CNBC and argue that, “The velocity of money is destroying the economy—we must expand the currency base!” It’ll sound logical, but palliative money-printing will be a policy option born out of panic. The final policy option. It won’t be done for evil conspiratorial reasons—always remember Aphorism #6 (“Never ascribe to malice what can be explained by incompetence.”). It’ll be carried out because of fear and panic.

A whole boatload of fools in Washington, on seeing this terrible commodity-driven crisis unfold, with consumer prices shooting the moon, will scream for dollars to be printed—and their rationale will be perfectly reasonable, I can practically hear it now: “We've got to get cash into the hands of the average American citizen, so he or she can buy food and heating oil for their families! We can’t let Americans starve and freeze to death!”

Palliative money-printing will take place—hence the average American family will likely be using bundles of $100 bills to fire up the chimney that hyperinflationary winter.

Hoo-Ah.

Now, this fairly Apocalyptic scenario is simultaneously horrifying, and exciting as all get out. Hell, why do you think disaster movies are so popular? Shit blowing up is way cool! That's why Roland Emmerich gets paid the big bucks, God bless ‘im.

But for sensible people, Apocalypse is a distraction—it’s not the main event. For sensible people who want to be prepared, Apocalypse represents opportunities.
 
A true story: In ’73, at the height of the Allende-created hyperinflation, an uncle of mine, who was then a college student, was offered an apartment in exchange for his car. That’s right—an apartment. He owned a crappy little Fiat 147—a POS if ever there was such a thing—but cars in Chile in the middle of that hyperinflation were so scarce, and considered so valuable, that he was offered an apartment in exchange. To this day, my uncle still tells the story—with deep regret, because he didn’t follow through on the offer: “That Fiat was in the junkyard by ’78, but that apartment still stands! And today it’s worth nearly a half a million dollars!” Actually, I think it’s worth a bit more than that.

Another true story: A banker friend of mine manages the assets of a fabulously wealthy 70-something gentleman, whom I'll call Alfredo. In 1973, Don Alfredo was a youngish man, just starting out, with a degree in engineering but no money—until he inherited US$3,000 from a deceased aunt. Alfredo realized that the $3,000 were in a sense worthless: He couldn’t buy anything with them, and it wasn’t enough for him to leave the country and start over someplace else. After all, even then, $3,000 was not that much money.

So he took those $3,000, went down to the stock exchange, and spent all of it on Chilean blue-chip companies: Mining companies, chemical companies, paper companies, and so on. The stock were selling for nothing—less than penny stock—because of the disastrous policies of the Allende government. His stock broker at the time told him not to buy stocks, as Allende’s government, it was thought, would soon nationalize these companies as well.
 
Alfredo ignored his broker, and went ahead with the stock purchases: He spent all of his $3,000 on buckets of near-worthless equities.
 
On September 11, 1973, the commanders in chief of the four branches of the Chilean military staged a coup d’état. Within a year, Alfredo’s stock had rebounded about ten-fold. Since then, they’ve multiplied several thousand-fold—yes: Several thousand-fold. Don Alfredo has lived off of that $3,000 investment ever since—it’s what made him a multi-millionare today.
 
He realized, of course, that either those blue-chip companies would be nationalized by Allende—in which case he would lose all his $3,000 inheritance, which really wouldn’t change his fortunes very much—or somehow a new normal would arrive in Chile. Since the $3,000 couldn’t buy him anything, he took a gamble—and won.
 
What do these two true stories tell us? Simple: Buy when there’s blood on the streets.
 
That’s Baron de Rothschild’s famous line—but it hides a key insight, one which should be highlighted perhaps even more forcefully than the line itself:
 
Even in the midst of Apocalypse, things will get better.
 
That’s something people don’t quite seem to understand. In fact, it’s why teenagers tragically kill themselves over some girl or boy: They don’t realize that, no matter how bad things are now, they will get better later. To repeat:

Even in the midst of Apocalypse, things will get better.
 
I’m not repeating this insight as an empty comfort to my readers—I’m saying it as a trading strategy. When things are at their crazy worst, when everyone believes the Apocalypse is well nigh here, that’s when thing are about to turn for the better. This applies to every situation—including and most especially in a hyperinflationary situation.

Why? Simple: Because hyperinflation—by definition—cannot last. Because people need a stable medium of exchange. So if the currency goes up in flames in a hyperinflationary fire, of course there will be a period of terrifying instability—but it will pass. Either the currency will be repaired somehow (as Volcker repaired the dollar back in 1980–’82). Or the currency will be completely and irrevocably trashed—and then be replaced by something else. Because—to insist—people need a stable medium of exchange.

If Treasuries tank and commodities shoot up so high that they essentially break the dollar, civilization will not come crashing down into anarchy. At worst, there’ll be a three-four years of hell—economic hell. Financial hell. But then things will settle down into a new normal.

This new normal might well have unsavory characteristics. I tend to be a pessimist, and just glancing through history, I can see that just about every period of hyperinflation has been stabilized by some subsequent form of autocratic or totalitarian government. The United States currently has all the legal decisions and practical devices to quickly transition into an authoritarian or totalitarian regime, should a crisis befall the nation: The so-called PATRIOT Acts, the Department of Homeland Security Agency, the practical suspension of habeas corpus, etc., etc.

But as I said in my previous post, and reiterate here: Speculations about the new normal are pointless at this time. The future will happen soon enough.

What I do know is, One, a hyperinflationary event will happen, following the crash in Treasuries. Two, commodities will be the go-to medium for value storage. Three, all asset classes will collapse in short order. And Four—and most importantly—civil society will not collapse along with the dollar. Civil society will stumble about like a drunken sailor, but eventually right itself and carry on with a new normal.

During that stumble, opportunities will present themselves. I hope I have explained why.
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Re: How hyperinflation will happen
« Reply #10 on: August 27, 2010, 11:16:49 AM »
All of the following quotes are from offdalip's quote from zerohedge (II)

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One of the effects of Chile’s hyperinflation was the collapse in asset prices.

No!  Inflation and hyper-inflation causes asset prices to increase.  Period. 

In the case of 1972 Chile, regime uncertainty caused some asset prices to crash, even in the reality of inflation.  The uncertainty was nationalization.  There was a lot of uncertainty around the likelihood of Allende nationalizing an apartment; not so much around him nationalizing a POS Fiat.
 
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This would seem counterintuitive. After all, if the prices of consumer goods and basic staples are rising in a hyperinflationary environment, then asset prices should rise as well—right? Equities should rise in price—since more money is chasing after the same number of stock. Real estate prices should rise also—and for the same reason. Right?
 
Actually, wrong—and for a simple reason: Once basic necessities are unmet, and remain unmet for a sustained period of time, any asset will be willingly and instantly sacrificed, in order to meet that basic need.

Tyler Durden keeps assuming a hyper-inflationary environment, and then starts painting.

The facts are a declining money supply and a declining velocity of money; and pervasive debt. 

There is no increased money supply chasing higher priced commodities.  Quantitative Easing (I, II, And Future), are not outstripping credit contraction.

In reading Tyler Durden it is always necessary to watch how he is using inflation.  He is very casual about interchanging it with rising prices.  A rising price can be the result of a shortage, like a shortage of wheat.  Which is not the same rising price as an increase in the money supply.

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Re: How hyperinflation will happen
« Reply #11 on: August 27, 2010, 03:19:12 PM »
the fed is outta bullets,

but Ben only has one tool left really,

and that is a hammer,

every problem he sees looks to him like a nail,

so he keeps any and every problem with that one tool he has.


No, it will be a loss of confidence that creates hyperinflation. that is what will create money velocity.
the money is already in the system. debt will default and vanish, so debt will virtually be nonexistant.
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Re: How hyperinflation will happen
« Reply #12 on: August 27, 2010, 04:50:31 PM »
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debt will default and vanish, so debt will virtually be nonexistant.

I agree. Debt creates demand for money only as long as the fiction is preserved that debts owed will ever be repaid.

No "money" ever "disappeared"; it changed hands, and got written on two different ledgers, one as an asset and one as a liability. Someone who depended upon repayment won't be able to repay his own debts...etc. Cascading defaults. But once all the defaults have happened, there is no demand for money for repayment. Both asset and liability got "erased".

Demand for goods and services is not infinitely elastic. The belief that it is is nonsense. People still want to eat even in an economic depression. At that point, instead of being used to repay debt THAT NO LONGER EXISTS, money that still exists in the system (it's being made continuously; there is zero risk of "running out of money") is used to buy goods and services. But the supply of goods and services will have already shrunk dramatically as companies that used to provide them go BANKRUPT in the preceding cascading defaults.

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Re: How hyperinflation will happen
« Reply #13 on: August 27, 2010, 08:46:43 PM »
M3, the broadest measure of money is declining.

So far, debt is being preserved.  That is what the bail-outs were about.  The debt was just transferred from corporations to future taxes and future taxpayers.

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No "money" ever "disappeared"; it changed hands, and got written on two different ledgers, one as an asset and one as a liability.

True, but "money" created through fractional reserve banking can, and does disappear.  Shall I keep calling it fictitious capital?

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Re: How hyperinflation will happen
« Reply #14 on: August 28, 2010, 11:16:45 PM »
I think the declining M3 is an illusion. Debt is disappearing, but it's debt that was already spent, and it is being repaid or defaulted. So while the actual numbers are shrinking, no less money is being spent, and probably a great deal more.

Technically, deflation in M3, but in practice... The question is, are prices rising due to practical inflation or supply/demand shifts?

I have noticed recently that the large stores are out of many of the higher quality goods. The only things that seem to be left are the garbage that nobody wants. I don't know why, but it seems to be a red flag of sorts to me.
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