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Faber: Dow may plunge to 1000
« on: August 06, 2010, 01:22:46 PM »

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Re: Faber: Dow may plunge to 1000
« Reply #1 on: August 06, 2010, 07:06:48 PM »
That snippet was taken out of a larger context that I happened to have heard. Just to make it clear: He didn't say it was PROBABLE. Only that it was possible, that it is a tenable point-of-view, and that such a scenario would have consequences.

Beware of really short articles taken out of larger contexts.  :laughing002:
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Re: Faber: Dow may plunge to 1000
« Reply #2 on: August 25, 2010, 10:36:12 AM »
http://online.barrons.com/article/SB50001424052970204304404575449470738086914.html?mod=googlenews_barrons

For reference, I don't really think it is worth the click.

Summary: Managers are 'Black Swanning' their portfolios just in case the stock market drops by 20%.  They do this by buying far-out-of-the-money puts.

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Ok.  So the managers have read the book; adopted the phrase; and are hedging against a market decline.

A "Black Swan" is not 'decline'.  A 'Black Swan' is something outside of the randomly unlikely.  A 'Black Swan' is more like an event, or series of events, that blind-sides everyone , except the likes of Napoleon Dynamite who drew 'ligers,' a cross between a tiger and a lion.....and would not have been blind-sided by their existence.

My Question/suspicion:
1) Is  buying-a-put similar to a credit default swap in that there is counter-party risk?
2) The real risk is some kind of Argentine/Soviet collapse, where markets and distribution just cease.

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Re: Faber: Dow may plunge to 1000
« Reply #3 on: August 25, 2010, 11:44:12 AM »
1) Is  buying-a-put similar to a credit default swap in that there is counter-party risk?

Yes, there is counter-party risk, because if the market really crashed, the counter-party might get a margin call he can not meet.
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Re: Faber: Dow may plunge to 1000
« Reply #4 on: August 25, 2010, 11:45:46 PM »
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except the likes of Napoleon Dynamite who drew 'ligers,' a cross between a tiger and a lion.....and would not have been blind-sided by their existence.

 :laughing002: Late at night, I start thinking that way myself.