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Gulf spill and its possible consequences
« on: June 13, 2010, 10:33:44 AM »
The magnitude of the disaster developing in the gulf of Mexico continues to be obfuscated by the main stream media. It has seemed obvious to me for weeks that the size and scope of this calamity is unheard of in US history and the consequences to ecosystems and life itself along most of the southern coast has yet to be properly reported or assessed. I suspect that many of you in those areas are already reviewing contingency plans. Today i came across this forum group:

http://www.meetup.com/socalmartiallawalerts/messages/boards/thread/9262641

Just now i am reviewing how to respond here way inland because those folks have to go somewhere.

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Re: Gulf spill and its possible consequences
« Reply #1 on: June 14, 2010, 05:52:27 AM »
did U know that area in the gulf is where nearly ALL Atlantic Tuna spawn?

Say Sayanora to Atlantic tuna as you know it...............and who knows what else..............
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Re: Gulf spill and its possible consequences
« Reply #2 on: June 14, 2010, 02:07:39 PM »
and did you know that the plankton in the gulf are responsible for 30% of the oxygen renewal each year?

wonder what happens when the first hurricane mixes that oil into the broader ocean?

wonder how long till its measured in Bermuda?

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Re: Gulf spill and its possible consequences
« Reply #3 on: June 14, 2010, 04:15:41 PM »
Did you know that in order for the bacteria that breaks down that oil to do its job it must consume all the available oxygen during said process?


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wonder how long till its measured in Bermuda?

I'm sure The Future can tell you that one.......
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Re: Gulf spill and its possible consequences
« Reply #4 on: June 14, 2010, 05:07:42 PM »
and i sincerely hope The Future NEVER measures this but that is highly unlikely. The toxic effects are already being measured on-land too:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eGxGVGiD3yk

and do take notice of the text below the video too

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Re: Gulf spill and its possible consequences
« Reply #5 on: June 14, 2010, 06:35:28 PM »
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hedvXiNxZbc

There is a plan to evacuate the entire southern and possible east coast of the US. It's called operation s w i f t  f o x (take out the spaces).
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Re: Gulf spill and its possible consequences
« Reply #6 on: June 14, 2010, 07:54:47 PM »
you see,

that's why I hate this connected media posting.............    N E Body can spread any kind of KRAZY claims based on NO SCIENTIFIC facts


You can be selective as well to spread only some actual facts but not others, that's the problem with utube etc. etc. etc.

I would NEVER trust anything on utube that has not been thoroughly vetted and vetted and revetted


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a plan to evacuate the entire southern and possible east coast of the US.

Ummm...... sounds kr#zy and impossible. sorry dude....
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Re: Gulf spill and its possible consequences
« Reply #7 on: June 14, 2010, 11:07:57 PM »
I know. I don't have any faith in the idea either, but I've been hearing this more lately and from diverse sources. If they even attempted to move that many people, the economy would grind to a halt. It's not going to happen, but somebody somewhere came up with this plan and I'm wondering why they did.
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Re: Gulf spill and its possible consequences
« Reply #8 on: June 15, 2010, 10:16:43 AM »
Agree this fella does not do a good job backing up his nebulous claims, expecially about famine. That NOAA video looks like the one on their web site though so draw your own conclusions based on that dispersion model.

And what about Kieth Olberman's video interview of a marine scientist "on the ground".

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0wrQCY76fps

you could have all the food in the world but if the air is so polluted it is poison you can not live. Human life expectancy:

3 minutes without air
3 days without water
3 weeks without food

The magnitude of the coverup currently exceeds the magnitude of the spill but that is about to change as the truth gets out.

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Re: Gulf spill and its possible consequences
« Reply #9 on: June 15, 2010, 04:21:31 PM »
Also: 3 hours without shelter.
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Re: Gulf spill and its possible consequences
« Reply #10 on: June 18, 2010, 07:43:02 PM »
I thought I would throw this out for anyone interested.
Caution, its a La Rouche video. :shocked013:

http://www.youtube.com/user/laroucheyouth#p/u/13/Qn6BGIDJ9PQ

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Re: Gulf spill and its possible consequences
« Reply #11 on: June 18, 2010, 10:53:05 PM »
Just to state the obvious: tourism, fishing, and oil drilling and processing themselves will be drastically impacted. I agree it doesn't seem very plausible that they would evacuate the coast.

I would guess there are impacts that are hard to measure, such as widespread damage to credibility, and British pension funds heavily invested in BP.

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Re: Gulf spill and its possible consequences
« Reply #12 on: June 18, 2010, 11:11:55 PM »
Comment in the Keith Olberman video was "the beginning of the 6th? mass extinction ?" [sic]

Hello... the mass extinction started about 10,000 years ago, and accelerated in the last 200 years.

I took my son down to LA to view the gulf and the area there before its totally destroyed this week. I was too late. It's already destroyed.
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Re: Gulf spill and its possible consequences
« Reply #13 on: June 19, 2010, 07:27:24 AM »
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Offdalip, how are your manatees?

haven't seen them lately, but they're usually off migrating this time of year. they come back in winter looking for warmer waters.

I do see alotta dolphins and porpoises cruising around here all the time tho'. They are here all year long.


Heard that all the fish and mammals were swimming close in towards shore, away from the deep water trying to avoid the spill cause the water is cleaner in shallower water
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Re: Gulf spill and its possible consequences
« Reply #14 on: June 19, 2010, 12:18:57 PM »
We're just about at the start of hurricane season too, hmmm...
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