Author Topic: Home Defense  (Read 1027 times)

hancocs

  • Moderator
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1278
  • Pray for the best, prepare for the worst
    • View Profile
Home Defense
« on: February 08, 2010, 01:36:43 PM »
If you've decided to take your personal or home defense seriously, you're probably researching buying a few firearms, or perhaps you already own one or more. The world of firearms can be confusing, so I wanted to cover a few points every prospective gun owner should consider.

First, you need to ask yourself what the objective is. Are you planning for home defense, or is the gun going to be used for self-defense away from home? Or do you plan on hunting, and if so, what are you going to be shooting at? This distinction will start you down the right path.

Second, what is your experience with weapons?If you grew up with guns and have practiced a lot, you're in a much different place than the person who's never touched one.

If you read gun enthusiast publications you're likely to hear everything from 'buy as many guns as you can afford' to 'buy as few guns as possible' and everything in between. My advice is to buy the weapons you expect to need and become an expert with them.So let's get on to building your armory.

One of the best starting points for your armory is a revolver or semi-auto handgun that you can use for home, self-defense and even emergency hunting, and you can carry it with you discreetly. My favorite weapon for this purpose is the .357 Magnum, an all-around gun that is effective, easy to use and flexible.

By flexible I mean it shoots several different types of ammo and the ammo is widely available. There's an old saying that the best gun is one you have with you when you need it, and with the .357 you can carry it with you without too much trouble. If you want additional capacity, I like the Glock 23, a .40 caliber semi auto that gives you the ability to carry eight more rounds than the five-shot .357.However, a semi-auto is a much more complex weapon both from an operational and maintenance standpoint. More can go wrong... so be honest about your own skill level before buying one.

Once you have a trusted handgun, I recommend you acquire a firearm for home defense, and in my opinion the hands-down winner would be a 12 gauge pump shotgun.It is a powerful and extremely versatile gun, because you can vary your ammunition based on your needs. You can shoot birdshot, buckshot, slugs, darts (flechette rounds), explosive fragments, bean bags, pepper gas, tear gas, rock salt, rubber slugs/buckshot, pyrotechnic whistles, bolo's and even flares.With that range of ammunition you can kill almost anything you can imagine, except hunt game at long distances.

Much of personal and home defense is deterrence, and this is where the pump shotgun really shines.If some thug is scouting your place and is carrying a knife or a handgun and you show up on the front doorwith a shotgun in hand, he's going to move on. You see, even if you're skilled with a handgun, a person can survive and even continue firing after being hit, but with a shotgun, you're almost guaranteed a powerful, knock-down hit and serious bleeding.

Nobody wants to face an angry homeowner with a shotgun, even if she's a 5' grandma. If you suffer the misfortune of facing an intruder in your home, the sound of that shotgun pumping has been known to send intruders running away... quickly.

Once you have a handgun and a shotgun, you have covered 95% of your defense needs. Anyone in your home who might handle the gun in an emergency should spend a lot of time at the range, training and shooting with both weapons.

Your third, and final component to your armory should be a rifle.The rifle gives you the ability to hunt or take down threats at a distance, and in conjunction with your other two weapons will cover virtually every need you might have.

Choosing the right rifle involves an evaluation of the stopping power, the likely uses, the range of the weapon, availability of parts and ammunition, and the weight.I also like to own different weapons that can shoot the same ammo, since it makes buying and stockpiling ammunition easy.

If you've purchased the .357 I recommended, one great option would be a lever-action rifle that uses the .357 magnum rounds.A lever gun is the rifle equivalent of a revolver; easy to use, easy to clean and simple and reliable when you need it. I think of my lever gun like a hammer in my toolkit... it's really that versatile.

Now, if you want something with greater range, I recommend the .308 rifle.It has more power and precision at distance than the .357 lever rifle.It's great for hunting many different types of game and is more effective than higher-powered, similar rifles.

One of the great things about the .308 rifle is it can fire the 7.62x51mm NATO rifle cartridge, the same round fired by the best battle rifles in the world. This means that your available ammunition now includes the most-produced rifle cartridge in the world.

These three or four firearms will make for a very robust armory that will cover almost any need.If you can envision a scenario where these weapons will not meet your need, you should probably be worried about escape and evasion rather than fighting.

Liberal Quote of the Week

"I suspect that eradicating small pox was wrong. It played an important part in balancing ecosystems."

- John Davis, editor of Earth First! Journal

Help a friend by forwarding this newsletter to them!

If you have a friend that would like to sign up for the Off The Grid Living newsletter, please send them to www.SolutionsFromScience.com

This newsletter is a free weekly service of Solutions from Science. You can reach us at:

Solutions from Science

815 W. Main St.
P.O. Box 518
Thomson, IL 61285
And you can email us at info@solutionsfromscience.com

Disclaimer: Solutions from Science publishes the opinions of expert authorities in many fields. But the use of these opinions is no substitute for legal, accounting, investment, medical and other professional services to suit your specific personal needs. Always consult a competent professional for answers to your specific questions.
   
 
 

opsec

  • Moderator
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 4939
  • Expect the worst, don't just prepare for it.
    • View Profile
Re: Home Defense
« Reply #1 on: February 08, 2010, 07:59:54 PM »
Quote
One of the great things about the .308 rifle is it can fire the 7.62x51mm NATO rifle cartridge, the same round fired by the best battle rifles in the world. This means that your available ammunition now includes the most-produced rifle cartridge in the world.

That's backwards. You want a rifle that is chambered specifically for the 7.62x51mm cartridge, then you can shoot both 7.62 and .308 through it. The 7.62 cartridge is just slightly wider in diameter than the .308. This can cause jams in a rifle chambered for .308 that will require disassembly of the rifle to fix. Not the effect you are looking for if you are in combat.
"The difference between a pessimist and an optimist is that the pessimist usually has more information"

"Where law ends tyranny begins. Where law begins, tyranny becomes legal"

"Truth is hate to those that hate truth".

hancocs

  • Moderator
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1278
  • Pray for the best, prepare for the worst
    • View Profile
Re: Home Defense
« Reply #2 on: February 08, 2010, 09:05:18 PM »
Your right opsec, good eye on that one. I did think what he had to say was worth posting.

Beeherder

  • Guest
Re: Home Defense
« Reply #3 on: February 09, 2010, 08:35:28 PM »
Thanks Hancocs that really was an interesting read. We can quible about caliber choices til the sun comes up but the essential points are correct. Own an armory appropriate to your training and train with the armory you have is the best idea. And thanks Opsec, for that detail clarification about 308 vs 7.62, that could be a costly mistake.

Stump Rancher

  • Guest
Re: Home Defense
« Reply #4 on: February 09, 2010, 09:07:59 PM »
Quote
If you've purchased the .357 I recommended, one great option would be a lever-action rifle that uses the .357 magnum rounds.A lever gun is the rifle equivalent of a revolver; easy to use, easy to clean and simple and reliable when you need it. I think of my lever gun like a hammer in my toolkit... it's really that versatile.

Interesting idea on the .357 lever action rifle, hancocs. Do you have one, or have an idea of a brand you would recommend?
« Last Edit: February 09, 2010, 09:09:39 PM by Stump Rancher »

oldsoldier

  • Yellow team
  • Full Member
  • *
  • Posts: 193
    • View Profile
Re: Home Defense
« Reply #5 on: February 09, 2010, 09:24:46 PM »
 Some pretty good points :

hancocs

  • Moderator
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1278
  • Pray for the best, prepare for the worst
    • View Profile
Re: Home Defense
« Reply #6 on: February 09, 2010, 10:22:44 PM »
I posted the above from a newsletter I get. I did not write it. But I have not own a 357 lever action rifle. I knew a guy that did and I think it was made by Winchester who have been around for a long time. He was very happy with it's performance.

opsec

  • Moderator
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 4939
  • Expect the worst, don't just prepare for it.
    • View Profile
Re: Home Defense
« Reply #7 on: February 09, 2010, 10:50:13 PM »
Quote
If you've purchased the .357 I recommended, one great option would be a lever-action rifle that uses the .357 magnum rounds.A lever gun is the rifle equivalent of a revolver; easy to use, easy to clean and simple and reliable when you need it. I think of my lever gun like a hammer in my toolkit... it's really that versatile.

Now, if you want something with greater range, I recommend the .308 rifle.It has more power and precision at distance than the .357 lever rifle.It's great for hunting many different types of game and is more effective than higher-powered, similar rifles.


I've never been a fan of rifles that fire pistol cartridges. To me that's like putting training wheels on a Harley Davidson. If a lever gun is the rifle equivalent of a revolver, why not just buy another used revolver? You can have the best of both worlds here, they make lever action rifles in .308. Browning makes a stainless steel take-down lever action in a variety of calibers: http://www.browning.com/products/catalog/firearms/detail.asp?value=003B&cat_id=034&type_id=015
"The difference between a pessimist and an optimist is that the pessimist usually has more information"

"Where law ends tyranny begins. Where law begins, tyranny becomes legal"

"Truth is hate to those that hate truth".

hancocs

  • Moderator
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1278
  • Pray for the best, prepare for the worst
    • View Profile
Re: Home Defense
« Reply #8 on: February 10, 2010, 11:24:52 AM »
The 308 is on my list to get. If I got a 357 it would be  Ruger GP 100. I think their are much better rifles out their to own then a 357 such are the AK-47 and AR 15 as well as a SKS. Handguns?? GLock's are hands down the best out there in my view.

Beeherder

  • Guest
Re: Home Defense
« Reply #9 on: February 10, 2010, 12:04:34 PM »
about the caliber thing, I've never been a big fan of the .357, just a personal choice, nothing more. The concept of revolver as the most stable dependable type of personal defense weapon has me cruising the gun show isles looking at and holding ultra light revolvers in large caliber five round. This started when reading some Boston Tea Party books and going to look at small ccw appropriate gun for myself. After 5 hours of looking at every small caliber semi auto in the .380 (reviewed in latest NRA, Rifleman magazine) and .32 by two particular manufacturers my choice was not to own any of them. Nothing felt good in my hand, barely got my finger in the trigger guard on a couple. Sure glad there was such a nice opportunity to look at so many fine firearms and decide whether they were appropriate. Anyway after an afternoon of serious looking, on the way out the door i picked up an ultra-light 5 round that may have been in my favorite caliber (.45 acp). Now I'm on a mission next Saturday at another show to see if it really existed or if it was a figment of my remagination.

Here's my take on pistols. This is only my opinion, YMMV. In an open carry world my 1911a by Springfield Armory would be my personal choice. Don't expect that to happen and that pistol is just too big and heavy to ccw. If there was FRNs to spare then the Glock model 21 would be my other open carry pistol. For ccw in the semi-auto the Glock 30 is one of my primary considerations. HOWEVER for ccw a pistol may be a better choice simply because of the dependability and simplicity vs any semi.

goal for 2010: at least 12 range days
« Last Edit: February 10, 2010, 12:08:33 PM by Beeherder »

Dame

  • Red team
  • Hero Member
  • *
  • Posts: 2261
  • Good luck; bad luck; who knows?
    • View Profile
Re: Home Defense
« Reply #10 on: February 10, 2010, 08:33:11 PM »
This is the first gun posting that has appealed to the expedient pragmatist in me.  I do not like guns, I resent needing to learn how to use them, I resent the cost; and, totally get the necessity.  We have no home defense problems other than some of the wild critters that become either diseased or overpopulated.  When we need a gun though, we need a gun.

hancocs

  • Moderator
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1278
  • Pray for the best, prepare for the worst
    • View Profile
Re: Home Defense
« Reply #11 on: February 10, 2010, 09:10:37 PM »
It's really not guns that are bad. It is what people do with guns. I just like going out and hitting a target sometimes. I'm really not sure what I would do if faced with the delima of shooting another human being. I not sure anyone does until you are put in a life or death sistuation.
« Last Edit: February 10, 2010, 09:13:33 PM by hancocs »

oldsoldier

  • Yellow team
  • Full Member
  • *
  • Posts: 193
    • View Profile
Re: Home Defense
« Reply #12 on: February 11, 2010, 12:43:45 AM »
. I'm really not sure what I would do if faced with the delima of shooting another human being. I not sure anyone does until you are put in a life or death sistuation.

hancocs..... Yeah... I hope and pray you and others here NEVER have to experience that decision or have to deal with the second thoughts and feelings afterwords

opsec

  • Moderator
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 4939
  • Expect the worst, don't just prepare for it.
    • View Profile
Re: Home Defense
« Reply #13 on: February 11, 2010, 12:51:25 AM »
Rehearse it mentally and gain an understanding of your attitude and feelings towards this event now. Acknowledge your feelings and forgive yourself in advance, and then make the decision to "do it". When reality strikes, you will not hesitate or at least you will hesitate less and that might be enough to make the difference between life and death.
"The difference between a pessimist and an optimist is that the pessimist usually has more information"

"Where law ends tyranny begins. Where law begins, tyranny becomes legal"

"Truth is hate to those that hate truth".

oldsoldier

  • Yellow team
  • Full Member
  • *
  • Posts: 193
    • View Profile
Re: Home Defense
« Reply #14 on: February 13, 2010, 12:34:22 AM »
Rehearse it mentally and gain an understanding of your attitude and feelings towards this event now. Acknowledge your feelings and forgive yourself in advance, and then make the decision to "do it". When reality strikes, you will not hesitate or at least you will hesitate less and that might be enough to make the difference between life and death.
Agreed thank you couldn't have put it better.

 

anything