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Hello from Southern Indiana
« on: February 07, 2010, 09:14:26 PM »
 Hello everyone I recently found this site and after looking it over decided to sign up. I'm a 49 year old married male. Ex- army with 18 years. I have been what is now called a "prepper"/ survivalist all my life. When I was growing up it was called being a country person and trying to be as self-sufficent as you could. I've had and still do garden, raised small/medium livestock. Hunt,fish,camp, forage. Have a pretty fair knowledge of edible/medicinal plants/herbs. Had some other pretty good training thanks to uncle sammy, that I don't /won't go into here. I drive a truck locally now for a living but I've been the proverbial "jack of all trades" during my work life from a carpenter,plumber,roofer,electrician. To a Security consultant/installer. Securityofficer/bodyguard. EMT/paramedic. Plus a few jobs i can't remember at the moment. I hope I can share some knowledge here and there to help you folks as well as learn something from those here. Well that's about all I can think of at the moment. If anyone has a question just ask I'll try to answer all.

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Re: Hello from Southern Indiana
« Reply #1 on: February 07, 2010, 09:29:25 PM »
You write well too.  Welcome.

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Re: Hello from Southern Indiana
« Reply #2 on: February 07, 2010, 11:09:24 PM »
Greetings Oldsoldier. You certainly have been around. I used to be a trucker and I'm looking at getting an EMT-B licence too.
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Re: Hello from Southern Indiana
« Reply #3 on: February 07, 2010, 11:44:21 PM »
It's too late for questions; we'll just have to hire you.  :laughing002:

Welcome.  Glad to have you on board. :greet009:

I haven't kept track of how well-documented THE BIG PICTURE is on the "read me first" messages, so let me just summarize to make sure we're all on the same page:

We're expecting long-term economic decline due to the combination of bad economic policy and depletion of strategic raw materials, including and especially petroleum. Kinda hard to run a fuel-intensive system with depleting fuel stocks.  :shocked013:

Chris Martenson has a fairly thorough summary of the problem on his website:

http://www.chrismartenson.com/crashcourse

It's too late, and conditions are not conducive to, society-wide solutions. There is a lot of discussion about what "we, as a society should do". Well, it is too little and too late for that. In fact, if anything, high-level folks in the know are looting the system as fast as they can, and that's their "solution". You'll hear a lot of snide remarks on the forums about the bailouts, Goldman-Sachs, et al.

Single-person and single-family solutions will not work for most people either. You can't just "buy and store away" economic security. As the system breaks down, many of us face unemployment or chronic under-employment, and we all face rising food costs as inflation accelerates, and it will. Lack of wage-negotiating leverage means that our pay raises will NOT keep up.

Organize your extended family, your friends, and start working out good relationships and deals with the neighbors. If all else fails, figure out who else on the forum lives near you and go out of your way to meet them. Time is running out.

For lack of a better estimate, we're using 2012 as our recommended "be failsafe ready" date. Of course, it depends on your own circumstances; some folks are already in serious trouble. Folks who are sinking under underwater mortgages and debt loads might want to think about turning the keys back to the bank (voluntary foreclosure), and moving in with relatives or friends somewhere where they can make their stand.

The 2012 figure comes from a couple sources, including a high-fallutin German energy thinktank, and some financial trends analysts. Gerald Celente might have pushed that figure. It is NOT necessarily the "system breakdown" date, but rather the date by which if you are not ready, you may never get ready, because by that date you might be too broke to have any options left. I keep harping on the fact that unemployment is STILL rising, and the government is lying about it. The system is not going to stabilize any time soon, and by the time the banks start lending again, they will flood the system with all the bailout money that was created "out of thin air", and cause severe inflation. I don't know if we have an estimated date for that--maybe late this year or early next year.

Separately, food prices have been rising at double-digit rates in recent years, and this year will probably be a bad one. We suggest a combination of long-term storage of relatively cheap staples like wheat flour, rice, lentils, split peas, cornmeal if you eat a lot of that, etc, and getting into the habit of using them regularly, combined with growing your own vegetables including and especially potatoes (one of the few crops that's relatively easy enough to raise enough to live on--the Irish reputedly fed 20 peasants per acre before the blight wiped out their crop) if that is an option. It is for most people; even if you don't have enough land to grow all your groceries (I don't--yet--but soon will), then you can still take a bite out of your grocery bill.

When you start seeing double-digit inflation, start accumulating and storing storable goods in bulk, and then drawing down your own supply. If you do the math, it is a strategy to deal with inflation. Start figuring out, too, what you can live without, so that you can concentrate your buying power on what you absolutely need, and inflation hedges.

It would be wise to organize your affairs to need to use as little fuel as possible, forever. I currently live in the city. Some day I will flee to already-bought agricultural land in a rural area. The suburbs are a bad choice, because they are too fuel-intensive.

It's quiet today because of some ball-games, but you'll meet the rest of us soon. We are a variety of folk: mountain-man types, free-spirit types, old hippies, bookish intellectual types who aren't very physically ready for this but saw it coming, fellow ex-military, farmers, and some fairly ordinary folk who just started noticing that something was wrong, and came here seeking confirmation that they were not crazy.  :confused009:
We're running out of petroleum. Are you ready?

Learn about food self-sufficiency and food security at New World Seeds & Tubers.

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Re: Hello from Southern Indiana
« Reply #4 on: February 09, 2010, 05:17:12 AM »
We're expecting long-term economic decline due to the combination of bad economic policy and depletion of strategic raw materials, including and especially petroleum. Kinda hard to run a fuel-intensive system with depleting fuel stocks. 

pssst.......... I can tell ya how to build and operate your own still...er.....ah..... I mean fuel production device

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Re: Hello from Southern Indiana
« Reply #5 on: February 09, 2010, 11:59:27 AM »
Biodiesel, or alcohol?

Either way, we need to build up our own library. Let's keep talking.  :hug004:
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Re: Hello from Southern Indiana
« Reply #6 on: February 09, 2010, 04:13:42 PM »
We could open our own chain of gas stations. I've already got the name: White Lightning's Gas n' Go.
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Re: Hello from Southern Indiana
« Reply #7 on: February 09, 2010, 04:46:23 PM »
Biodiesel, or alcohol?

Either way, we need to build up our own library. Let's keep talking.  :hug004:

More the second one BUT I do have some info on biodeisel. (ya gotta remember I grew up in the country) (kentucky)

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Re: Hello from Southern Indiana
« Reply #8 on: February 09, 2010, 07:06:17 PM »
Kentucky, the land of "farming in the woods".
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Re: Hello from Southern Indiana
« Reply #9 on: February 09, 2010, 07:38:04 PM »
Welcome Oldsoldier,

You will enjoy this forum, great mix of people. I sure we can learn alot from you. :greet009:

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Re: Hello from Southern Indiana
« Reply #10 on: February 09, 2010, 08:06:10 PM »
Kentucky, the land of "farming in the woods".

 Yeah they're big fans of "herbal" medicines

 

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