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The Appropriate Technology Library
« on: January 30, 2010, 01:09:02 AM »
http://www.villageearth.org/Publications/ATLibrary/ATLDVD.html

Looks like one stop shopping for all things dealing with pre-industrial technology. Anybody feeling rich?
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Re: The Appropriate Technology Library
« Reply #1 on: January 31, 2010, 11:40:49 AM »
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yikes that's a big price tag! but wow what a library. If ever there was somehting that cried out to be a community library this would be that thing.

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Re: The Appropriate Technology Library
« Reply #2 on: January 31, 2010, 02:23:45 PM »
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Development workers are increasingly recognizing the inadequacies of formal schooling systems in the South. Formal schooling inevitably depends on massive expenditures for schools, teacher training, and centralized administration, in addition to the continuing drain of government revenues to pay teachers' salaries. Typically, the shortage of revenues to devote to education has ensured a chronic shortfall in the number of teachers relative to ever expanding numbers of pupils at all levels. Inadequately paid teachers cannot afford to devote all of their time to their teaching work, and teacher training based on foreign (often colonial) educational systems means teachers inherit curricula and methods that have little to do with problems faced by students and their families. For these kinds of reasons, formal education systems are unable to provide relevant educational opportunities for many of the rural poor.

From the non-formal education library.

I agree with many of the points--but feel uncomfortable with some of the Leftist language that I fear would result in self-defeating mentalities.

Funny thing is that within the USA, lefties, and for that matter the Right as well, tend to push this type of highly impractical, formal education on the poor as a "ticket to the American dream" (whatever that was supposed to be).

For that matter, it's impractical to the rest of us, SOON TO JOIN THE POOR, as well.

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We too need larger numbers of lesser trained health workers to become self-sufficient in health care. Such people are quite capable of treating most common health problems.

To a large degree, that's already the case. Nurses and CNAs perform probably over 90% of health-care. The doctors who ostensibly in charge do relatively little other than give the formal "OK" when the nurse calls to report a problem--that she probably already knows how to take care of anyway, but needs her permission!

A lot of the "big guns" of modern medical technology are geared towards extending lives a few weeks or months past the point of natural viability. My wife just had a patient--82, lived a healthy, active life, but a routine scan stumbled upon an aneurysm. The doctor talked him into surgery. He died on the operating table. In that case, they didn't extend his life, but shortened it, trying to do surgery on a body that was just too old to take it.

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There is the romantic who unquestioningly believes in the general effectiveness of traditional remedies, and there is the crusading doctor who sees only superstition in native cures. Both perspectives are partly valid; traditional remedies range from the dramatically effective to the dangerous. The main weakness of traditional medicines has been the failure of its practitioners to question the validity of cures; due to coincidence and the power of suggestion, good and bad remedies are added uncritically to the medical kit of the indigenous healer. Nor has there been sufficient dispassionate review of what is effective, harmless, and dangerous within the drug arsenal of modern medicine.

Again, largely in agreement. A lot of traditional cures are under suspicion simply because they predate "empirical science". The problem is that science STILL is not a motive--drug companies are motivated by PROFITS, not some supposedly "objective" magic called "science".

We have both "diseases" and "cures" that have been lobbied into existence, that are totally fraudulent.

I am quite sure that some ancient cures work for some types of problems, and some don't. People get stuck into a false dichotomy where it's an all-or-nothing deal, when that does not make sense.
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Re: The Appropriate Technology Library
« Reply #3 on: January 31, 2010, 02:26:23 PM »
As for the price tag, there is always more than one way to achieve a goal. A lot of info available for free for download from other sources, it's just a matter of getting into the habit. Say devote one hour every couple of weeks to finding and downloading useful information. I would suggest taking the additional step of making hard-copy of a lot of stuff.
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« Reply #4 on: January 31, 2010, 03:27:04 PM »
a great example of on-line appropriate technology that is not commercial in nature is one found here at Atash's forum and that is easy to subscribe to and follow threads applicable to  your situtuation. Warning the volume can be overwhelming so the Digest is suggested:

solarheat@yahoogroups.com

Not only is solar appropriate, photovoltaics are not actually required to make use of the sun!!

any other notable hands-on non-commercial groups like this around?

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Re: The Appropriate Technology Library
« Reply #5 on: January 31, 2010, 03:46:41 PM »
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I am quite sure that some ancient cures work for some types of problems, and some don't.

Archaeologists have found evidence that doctors in ancient Egypt performed surgery on people, and the doctor would have his hands cut off if the patient died.
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Re: The Appropriate Technology Library
« Reply #6 on: February 24, 2010, 06:07:11 AM »
For libraries of information, also consider the http://www.cd3wd.com/ project. They offer a massive library of documents on a wide range of topics, many/most of which are suited for long term "low technology" implementations. It also has a much nicer price tag of free!

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Re: The Appropriate Technology Library
« Reply #7 on: February 24, 2010, 11:14:59 AM »
Thank you, Radioastro, and welcome to the forums.  :greet009:  If you like, you can introduce yourself here:

http://mutuallyassuredsurvival.com/smforums/index.php/board,6.0.html
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Re: The Appropriate Technology Library
« Reply #8 on: February 26, 2010, 01:05:16 PM »
How about this site.  It has more info and is free to download.

http://www.cd3wd.com/

I had used it before and then lost a bunch of files when my computer crashed.  So to start rebuilding,  I downloaded all 13 gigs of info. And then, guess what, a contact on this site mentioned it to me recently also.

Give it a look.

Then there is also the files site I started for us here a while back.  find it http://www.4shared.com/account/dir/10940004/993e231e/sharing.html?rnd=25
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Re: The Appropriate Technology Library
« Reply #9 on: February 26, 2010, 02:20:00 PM »
Thanks Oscar,
   I haven't downloaded it all, but I've got the site saved on my favorites menu. My C drive is about full. I can't take on 13 gigs.
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