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Welcome Tom Wagner!
« on: January 08, 2010, 01:16:25 PM »
Everyone please give a hearty MAS welcome to Tom Wagner, aka "Tater Mater".   :greet009:
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Re: Welcome Tom Wagner!
« Reply #1 on: January 08, 2010, 04:34:56 PM »
The Father of all french fries walks among us!  :dance017:
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Re: Welcome Tom Wagner!
« Reply #2 on: January 08, 2010, 05:20:55 PM »
A Hearty welcome indeed!
Good to have you on board Tom.
Look forward to tasting the tater bytes you share with us.

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Re: Welcome Tom Wagner!
« Reply #3 on: January 08, 2010, 06:26:11 PM »
Welcome Tom Wagner.  I'll be looking forward to your posts!

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Re: Welcome Tom Wagner!
« Reply #4 on: January 08, 2010, 09:05:41 PM »
Glad you showed up, Tom. My girlfriend loves fries more than she loves me. What to do?  :rolleyes008:

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Re: Welcome Tom Wagner!
« Reply #5 on: January 09, 2010, 04:22:23 AM »
Hello Tom. Hope to see your contributions. :)

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Re: Welcome Tom Wagner!
« Reply #6 on: January 09, 2010, 04:38:34 AM »
Welcome <smile>

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Re: Welcome Tom Wagner!
« Reply #7 on: January 10, 2010, 02:45:33 AM »
Thanks for the hearty welcome!

I am here primarily because of of my work with potatoes and tomatoes, utterly too much in regards to breeding and variety development and alas!, too little to with practicality.  I got people to take note of my breeding work back in 1983 when I printed a small catalog of seeds called Tater Mater Seeds.  In some ways, however, my breeding work with tomatoes were part of the Renaissance of Heirloom tomatoes.  Green Zebra, Green Grape, Banana Legs, and other quickly became part of the farmer's market craze, upscale restaurants like Chez Pannise....

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You can Google this all you want ....Alice Waters of the renowned Chez Panisse restaurant chose 'Green Zebra' as one of her favorite varieties. The ripe fruits of this unusual tomato have a ...

I posted a message elsewhere on this forum about my TPS (true potato seed) as I seem to have more experience with it than most folks.  I like to think of TPS as a poor man's way of having a ready supply of seeds and tubers to survive an economic downturn. There is a peculiar opposition to me in the greater potato industry; that somehow I am guilty of peculation, the fraudulent appropriation of property (potato germplasm) entrusted to my care but proprietorially owned by universities and national government and that my human activity with potato breeding is a wrongdoing, a transgression, a law-breaking act against registered seed potatoes and that my potatoes can not be registered in foreign governments nor can be protected within the USA.

I am anti-GMO, mostly by default, since most breeding facilities are working with GMO's and my public breeder status runs contrary to the patented, controlled growing of certified seed potatoes.  The worry is that a free breeder getting access of GMO clones to use in breeding in a Monsanto type nightmare.  My tomato and potato breeding effort has largely been a thankless endeavor to diversify genetic germplasm tracing back to plant introduction varieties, wild species, heirloom, and more modern breeding efforts. 

I am a walking, breathing, conflict of interest to the industry.  My independence seems to worry some people but was cheered wherever I went in Europe, during a two month long series of workshops there last September and October.  I got lots of applause when I said I was a law breaker, growing potato and tomatoes that were not registered, and hoping that individuals in Europe could do the same.

Not sure of how I can help in the discussion forum here, but Atash and I get together from time to time in person to talk about subjects much like the ones addressed on mutuallyassuredsurvival.

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Re: Welcome Tom Wagner!
« Reply #8 on: January 10, 2010, 01:34:26 PM »
The only thing that's constant is change.

Have you ever seen the Gary Larson Far Side cartoon depicting two men in a small boat on a lake, nuclear mushroom clouds going off in the distance, and one says to the other: "I'll tell you what it means, Norm: no size restrictions and SCREW the limit!"

The rules are about to change, dramatically.

Have you ever thought about the way that change happens at the margins? How some obscure twig-leaping creature suddenly evolves into a giant race of feathered fliers? How mutations--genetic MISTAKES--turn into something USEFUL?

The unfolding of the Kosmos is CHAOTIC. Tiny differences in initial conditions result in HUGE differences downstream.

The reason the Monsantos of the world are so powerful, is because they have friends in high places who have figured out that food is going to become relatively a heck of a lot more expensive in the near future, than it has been in the near past. Maslow's pyramid of needs is in for a giant upset! WE know that. 99.9% of the population not only don't know that, but they reject the information offhand when we try to warn them, because their faith in "the system" is so blind.

Just eating when other people are wanting, will be a huge competitive advantage. Small steps taken today will have a huge impact in the future.

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Not sure of how I can help in the discussion forum here

Glad you asked. Just knowing how to bring in crops of potatoes, especially, and tomatoes, would be a big help. For example, we have had offline discussions about a certain piece of property in a certain part of the country, and I still don't know yet if potatoes can tolerate a light overnight summer frost the way that the hardy crops currently grown there can. My guess is yes but I don't know for certain and my ignorance could result in a horribly costly setback.

You can also help by asking the right questions. Truth be told a lot of us have similar challenges to plan for.

And you can link in to a network of people for both commerce and friendly help.

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Re: Welcome Tom Wagner!
« Reply #9 on: January 10, 2010, 04:34:49 PM »
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Hello Tom,

Glad to meet you and humbly pleased to be at Atash's table with another outlaw. Gee, imagine that; illegal to own and grow your own food and food seed stock, who would have thought it would come to this?

I'll go look at that potato seed thread now.

Thanks in advance for any and all of your comments Mr. Wagner

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Re: Welcome Tom Wagner!
« Reply #10 on: January 11, 2010, 12:09:52 AM »
My potato varieties have been grown by a certified seed grower for over 10 years, but I have not been able to visit the growers field (100 miles away), nor access any of the potatoes to plant for my own purposes.  Some have been dropped out of production and no word from the grower because I have no control.  The commercial grower who buys the seed potatoes does not allow me to visit the production fields either.

Another grower I sent mini tubers to a few years ago has 7.2  acres of it and has not contacted me since 2 years ago.  That variety has been recently discovered to be the only red potato variety known to be resistant to.....

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One of the reasons I like TPS, true potato seed is that I can keep it to myself, trade it, or throw it away.  Monsanto and the big potato growers cannot control that!
More some other time.

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Re: Welcome Tom Wagner!
« Reply #11 on: January 11, 2010, 07:40:19 AM »
Nice photo of you and Michel. Which ocean are you two standing at the shores of there?

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« Reply #12 on: January 11, 2010, 05:35:45 PM »
Mediterranean Sea,  Mer Méditerranée, Mittelmeer, are some of the names that come to mind.  Michel Lachaume and I were traveling from one workshop in France to yet another and since we could see the sea from the road, we had to get our feet wet at least.  We rented a car to drive all over France, center, north, center, west, southwest, south east, south, and east...in that order.

Michel was my translator in France, Belgium and Switzerland.  Imagine all the talking we did about potatoes and tomatoes!

Tom Wagner, BTW, that is me with the TATER MATER cap on.
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Re: Welcome Tom Wagner!
« Reply #13 on: January 11, 2010, 07:29:01 PM »
A Hearty Welcome aboard Tom!

Greets from Ruskin FL, home of Ruskin tomatoes....

I am surrounded here by Mater farms, but the bugs still beat me when I try to grow my own  :confused013:
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Re: Welcome Tom Wagner!
« Reply #14 on: January 11, 2010, 08:20:22 PM »
Welcome Tom great to have you on board :greet025: