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biggest beet harvest ever here
« on: July 30, 2009, 04:11:17 PM »
Abundance can be you know sorta overwhelming sometimes. This year is my first real attempt to grow rows of beets. Just one 4 ft, one 3 ft, and one 2 foot. Thinned them once and will need to again. I can only tolerate so much vinegar pickled stuff until it all tastes the same so one on the things i like to do is cook the harvest in big batches for the deep chest freezer. Those boiled beet salads are on tonite's menu mmmmmm strawberries mmmmmm. And that boiling water is starting to look a lot like borsch at some fancy restaraunt. What else does that red water need?

And what can i do with what is looking like it may become big bunches of beets?

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Re: biggest beet harvest ever here
« Reply #1 on: July 30, 2009, 04:31:50 PM »
Do an experiment and see how long beets will store for and at what temperature and post the results as they become known.
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Re: biggest beet harvest ever here
« Reply #2 on: July 30, 2009, 06:04:39 PM »
So there i was once again blinded by your brilliance and typed in the search engine box "storing beets" and one of the choices said there might be some good reasons to like beets and had some suggestions about storing too. duh scuse me for not doing the obvious to begin with. hmmmm maybe next i'll try borscht, jez sum times i underwhelm even me.

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Re: biggest beet harvest ever here
« Reply #3 on: July 30, 2009, 10:53:42 PM »
Beets keep a long time in a "root cellar", just like turnips (although beets usually picked a little younger).

Be sure to eat the tops fresh. Use them just like Swiss Chard (same species. Swiss Chard is a mutant beet that doesn't produce a fat root but makes bigger leaves)

Beets are pretty good pickled. Add lots of garlic, chile, mustard seed, and allspice.
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Re: biggest beet harvest ever here
« Reply #4 on: July 30, 2009, 11:50:27 PM »
Thanks for the pickling spice list.  I get bored with pickled beets.  My family never does.

Some people chop, cook and can chard and beet tops along with the beets to make bortch base for later in the winter.

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Re: biggest beet harvest ever here
« Reply #5 on: July 31, 2009, 12:10:16 AM »
Dame, when you refer to "pickled beets", you might be thinking of something different than I do. Some people refer to cooked beets in an acidic brine to be "pickled". To me, pickled beets are raw; either infused with vinegar, or, heh heh, fermented.

To me they should either have a crisp texture, or a bit of a shriveled fermented texture, but should not be cooked.

For those who don't know, in cold climates beets are roughly the second most generous food provider after potatoes. Their sugar content is fairly high, so the amount of calories per acre you get from beets is high. Plus, like potatoes, they keep. So it's an important survival crop.
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Re: biggest beet harvest ever here
« Reply #6 on: July 31, 2009, 12:18:16 AM »
My family is most fond of beets.  I refer to the entire list including the cooked hot ones pickled as left overs.  I like the idea of using diferent spice combinations.

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Re: biggest beet harvest ever here
« Reply #7 on: July 31, 2009, 12:08:03 PM »
the briny stuff is what i get bored with tell me more about fermented beets please

and Dame that's a great idea for borscht base. Though i think i'll also make up some big batches of borscht too while the cabbage and carrots are still fresh. Then put the leftovers (planned overs really) in quart jars that must NOT be put in the no-defrost frig freezer or that freeze/thaw cycle will break them.

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Re: biggest beet harvest ever here
« Reply #8 on: July 31, 2009, 02:28:37 PM »
is this another application for those saved onion bags? Can i trim (not too close) the beets and put them in saved onion bags to hang under the stairs (cool room)?

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Re: biggest beet harvest ever here
« Reply #9 on: July 31, 2009, 06:44:58 PM »
Grrrrrrr...I haven't been able to get beet greens.  I keep a variety of greens in the freezer and rotate them in my smoothies, but ran out of beet and now can't seem to get any around here.  That's something I would grow if I had some land.

I also like them sauteed with garlic and diced tomato.

I saw on the food channel once a Beet Napoleon.  They cooked the beets first, then sliced them into rounds, and stacked them with sliced fresh mozzarella.  They drizzled some kind of sauce on the stacks.

A lot of people juice them.  Do you have a juicer? 
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Re: biggest beet harvest ever here
« Reply #10 on: July 31, 2009, 07:01:20 PM »
Beet juice is a good idea. It's already sweet, but has an earthier taste than fruit and mixes well with other vegetable juices.

Beets are also an essential ingredient in the northern version of that famous southern dish, "Red Velvet Cake".

Some of you already know this story but for the newbies: "red velvet cake" was invented in the southern states, and got its name from what happens to chocolate when you mix it with buttermilk in the cake batter. It is closely-related to devil's food cake (which might have originally been "red devil cake").

Well, then several things happened.

One of them was World War 2, during which time sugar was rationed. Northern cooks started adding sweet BEETS to compensate for the paucity of sugar, and also to enhance the reddish brown color. Vegetable purees mixed into cake batter also make the cakes moist and tender.

When the war was over, southern cooks stopped adding any beets, but started putting RED FOOD COLORING into the batter, because modern cocoa is usually "Dutch process" which doesn't change color. (they probably also don't use buttermilk anymore; a modern red velvet cake is basically the same thing as devil's food cake, with red die added to it).

Well, but the beet-cocoa mixture is an intriguing and fairly wholesome one, and beet red is harmless whereas may people think artificial red food color is highly neurotropic (I have no idea; I won't touch the stuff).

For that matter, beets are a good source of natural red dye. You can use it in both food and to dye clothing (heck, it's always accidentally staining something...  :shocked011:).

About fermentation pickles: we need a wiki entry for them if we don't already have one. Basically, you put them in a jar or pickle crock (preferably one with a lid to smother out the kam yeast...yuck), add other flavors to taste, pack it tight, and cover with just enough brine to keep them wet and salty. The Lactobacillus that live in brine are harmless to humans and keep pathogens and spoilage microbes out.

Fermentation pickles have a fermentation smell and are quite sour due to the lactic acid excreted by the Lactobacillus. The one you are most familiar with is Sauerkraut, but bear in mind that home-made Sauerkraut is significantly tastier than the canned stuff from the store, which is cut too finely, and cooked.

It is one of the cheapest ways of preserving food, the primary cost being salt, and it is good for preserving vitamins including that delicate one, C.
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Re: biggest beet harvest ever here
« Reply #11 on: July 31, 2009, 08:00:10 PM »
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Well, but the beet-cocoa mixture is an intriguing and fairly wholesome one, and beet red is harmless whereas may people think artificial red food color is highly neurotropic (I have no idea; I won't touch the stuff).

It is high in salicylates.  Some people have trouble processing salicylates.  In children the result is usually hyperactivity. 

There are many mothers on Mothering.com's forum that know in detail which foods have salicylates and keep their families away from them.  I've never noticed an issue in any of us, so I haven't paid attention to all the details.

(There is a mouse running around our window ledges right now!  Where is that cat!?!?)

Anyway, these mothers have studied some biochemistry and discovered which detox pathway is involved.  They try to help it along by providing the nutrients that are needed.
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Re: biggest beet harvest ever here
« Reply #12 on: July 31, 2009, 08:01:15 PM »
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The Lactobacillus that live in brine are harmless to humans and keep pathogens and spoilage microbes out.

They are better than harmless.  They are enormously beneficial!
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Re: biggest beet harvest ever here
« Reply #13 on: July 31, 2009, 09:20:29 PM »
clean ocean = free salt and friendly bactierias
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Re: biggest beet harvest ever here
« Reply #14 on: August 01, 2009, 08:34:50 AM »
where can we find a clean ocean?