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Re: Garden Pictures
« Reply #30 on: November 15, 2009, 01:25:54 AM »
I'm guessing from the pix it is African Moringa (M. stenopetala), but Indian Moringa (M. oleifera) is apparently a fairly common street tree in tropical Asia.

Your "guerilla plantings" could be street trees. Then the seeds would be available to anyone who needed them.
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Re: Garden Pictures
« Reply #31 on: November 16, 2009, 05:28:59 PM »
These are oleifera's. 
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Re: Garden Pictures
« Reply #32 on: December 06, 2009, 05:25:52 PM »
Vine ripened Seminole pumpkin.
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Re: Garden Pictures
« Reply #33 on: December 19, 2009, 05:51:06 PM »
First Dragon Purple Carrot

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Re: Garden Pictures
« Reply #34 on: December 25, 2009, 05:13:23 PM »
A year plus old stick up cowpea.  I left this one along and it turned from a small bush plant to a small tree.  I am glad I left it.  It is setting a huge amount of fruit and has a trunk a few inches thick.  I may try cutting it back after this harvest and see how long these live.  Quite colourful pods when they ripen.

Also fresh Yellow Mangel Beet, Dragon Purple Carrot, Uberlandia, Yellowstone and White.
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Re: Garden Pictures
« Reply #35 on: December 26, 2009, 12:08:59 AM »
Maybe this is a peculiarity of Bermudan names for things, but I did a double-take when I saw your Cowpeas because they look more like Pigeon-peas to me.

Cow-peas grow on an annual semi-climbing thing (might depend on the variety; I dunno), that looks a little like a common bean (Phaseolus vulgaris) but perhaps more luxuriant. They have blossoms in the purple-to-white range, and elongated pods.

Pigeon peas grow on big bushy perennials, some almost arborescent in scale (depends on variety), have yellow flowers (rather like yours), are more amenable to sandy or poor soils than Vignas, are far more drought-tolerant, and live about 5 years.

Both natives to tropical Asia, but Pigeon peas grow in the drier parts of India where Vignas do not.

Cowpeas are far more common in cultivation in the New World, but Pigeon Peas are eaten on some of the Caribbean islands.
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Re: Garden Pictures
« Reply #36 on: December 26, 2009, 07:12:26 AM »
Thanks for the insight.  It is not a Bermudian pecliarity - just my own confusion.  I must admit I picked between 2 possible things I planted in this area - the other was the grey specled palapye.  It might be that (which is a cow pea also I believe) but the only picture I found online showed purple flowers.  I'll post some pictures of mature peas when they come.
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Re: Garden Pictures
« Reply #37 on: December 26, 2009, 11:46:23 AM »
Pigeon peas might actually be the better choice for your conditions. It looks like they are happy, whatever they are.
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Re: Garden Pictures
« Reply #38 on: December 27, 2009, 05:53:40 AM »
In another odd twist, I picked a unch of mature lablab beans yesterday.  Odd twist is, they look entirely different than the last ones.  Maybe my vines are so entangled i am getting confused but I swear I picked the same pods weeks ago and got some dark brown speckled beans which did NOT look at alll like lablabs. It was so wierd I was about to write the seller (seedman.com) and say i think I was sold the wrong beans.  But yesterday I picked a bundle and they all have the lablab fingernail type look, totally different.

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The others look like runner beans to me and I was deliberately not eating them mature due to the cyanide....could the pods be that similar that I wouldn't notice?
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Re: Garden Pictures
« Reply #39 on: December 27, 2009, 08:09:50 AM »
Runner beans have cyanide in them?
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Re: Garden Pictures
« Reply #40 on: December 27, 2009, 08:47:10 AM »
No.  The lablab.  I thought it was lablab I was picking but turns out there were more like runners.  Now I have both.  Lablab can be eaten immature without issue, in fact some cultures eat them fully mature without issue.  There are small amounts of cyanide in more food than many people know.
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Re: Garden Pictures
« Reply #41 on: December 27, 2009, 07:27:35 PM »
Yes, that's right, lablabs are poisonous in certain stages.

Some people claim to eat lablab beans. Some claim that certain varieties are not poisonous, but I wonder if the real danger is lack of enough cooking to drive off the cyanoglycocides (sp?). Only a few cultures eat lablabs. It would be interesting to get the definitive word.

It might be that eating the pods is dangerous, if the seeds are a little too mature, and the pods cooked only briefly (which would make sense, since the pods would not stand up to long cooking).

Runner beans have fairly palatable dry beans. I think we have one chap on here who likes them a lot. I'm growing scarlet runners the coming year, just because they are easier than common beans (Phaseolus vulgaris) and more productive in my climate. They are also fitfully perennial, but mine having been weak from attack by Pythium root rot, and having had a severe freeze this year with no snow cover, I am not optimistic of seeing them again, and am planning on just replanting them.
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Re: Garden Pictures
« Reply #42 on: December 28, 2009, 07:54:33 AM »
I know a lady from kenya that eats lablab.  I'll ask here about how they handle it.
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Re: Garden Pictures
« Reply #43 on: December 30, 2009, 05:18:13 PM »
Please do and post. Now I am curious, because if I ever move to a warmer climate, I want to know what is safe to eat, and what is not. I was surprised to find that as a summer annual they grow luxuriantly in summer even this far north. I spotted one at the University of Washington.
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Re: Garden Pictures
« Reply #44 on: December 30, 2009, 06:07:24 PM »
Here is what she said:

"All we do is make sure it is thoroughly
cooked - i.e. until very tender. Because of how long it takes to cook,
generally one would need to top up the cooking water during the cooking
process."
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