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Re: H1N1 influenza possible pandemic alert!
« Reply #60 on: April 28, 2009, 01:15:38 PM »
Drum Runners is the other site I'm addicted to.  Great info on that site.

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« Reply #61 on: April 28, 2009, 03:37:49 PM »
I agree, it's a great site.  I like this one too because we exchange info and de-stress the day!

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« Reply #62 on: April 28, 2009, 03:45:01 PM »
N-Acetyl-L-Cysteine.  (Man, no wonder people call it NAC instead!)  I's an antioxidant and glutathione precursor.  From the label "glutathione is an antioxidant that exerts a variety of protective effects including detoxification and intracellular defense against oxidative stress"

Future, can you expand why to have it on hand for the fle?  We give NAC to my son as a supplement for autism.  My hubby's the engineer who did all of the medical research reading so I can't say why, but we do notice a 10-20% improvement of symptoms when he's on NAC.

Where do you get it?

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« Reply #63 on: April 28, 2009, 04:27:00 PM »
Any health food store, vitamin store or any store that sells bodybuilding supplements. I occasionally see it in grocery stores in the pharmacy area.
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« Reply #64 on: April 28, 2009, 08:13:49 PM »
Any health food store, vitamin store or any store that sells bodybuilding supplements. I occasionally see it in grocery stores in the pharmacy area.

I looked for it today at CVS, but I could have looked in the wrong section.  I try again another day.  Thanks.

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« Reply #65 on: April 28, 2009, 08:18:17 PM »
Drum Runners is the other site I'm addicted to.  Great info on that site.

Thanks, JustAMom. It has been a real effort during the last few days to keep the drum-runners.com up to date with all the stuff that has been happening. But, I really hope that useful information is going out to those folks who want it. Just as an FYI, I usually don't put in a plug for any survival 'trinkets', but this will be an exception. I bought a Black & Decker Charge-It a couple of months ago. It is a portable automobile battery jumper (has built in jumper cables) & a 12v heavy-duty internal battery. I have already started 2 cars with it. Recharges on standard 110v household current, can also trickle charge from the cigarette lighter socket in a vehicle. AND, it has a built in air compressor with enough strength to inflate a car tire (yup, my wife's car tire went flat, so first hand experience on that too) to 40PSI. Has a built in LED trouble light and a 12v socket for a cell phone charger or CB radio. Whew!

Bought mine at WalMart and it set me back all of $80 + tax. Without a doubt this is the handiest device I've ever bought.

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Re: H1N1 influenza possible pandemic alert!
« Reply #66 on: April 28, 2009, 08:48:27 PM »
I believe it is used in a mist form to breath in and break the di-sulfide bonds in mucous in the lungs.  It is called Mucomyst.  Another use , and I'm not totally sure, is to give it by mouth to reverse liver effects in Tylenol Overdose. Perhaps its antioxidant properties were the mechanism here.

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Re: H1N1 influenza possible pandemic alert!
« Reply #67 on: April 28, 2009, 09:16:55 PM »
Any health food store, vitamin store or any store that sells bodybuilding supplements. I occasionally see it in grocery stores in the pharmacy area.

I looked for it today at CVS, but I could have looked in the wrong section.  I try again another day.  Thanks.

I've never been impressed with CVS's stock of nutritional supplements. NAC is usually in a section devoted to amino acids. A GNC store would be likely to have it.
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Re: H1N1 influenza possible pandemic alert!
« Reply #68 on: April 28, 2009, 11:00:07 PM »
http://cbs13.com/national/swine.flu.pandemic.2.996074.html

I can't tell if we are being told the truth here or not. Here's hoping for the best:

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The toll from the swine flu epidemic appears to be stabilizing in Mexico, the health secretary said late Tuesday, with only seven more suspected deaths.

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"You can see the total of new cases," Cordova said, pointing to bar charts that showed a rise and fall. "In the last days there has been a drop."

Herd Watch:
There is a poll on the website that reads "How concerned are you about the swine flu outbreak"?
The two choices of response are 1)Very - It can kill and spreads easily (58%), and 2) Not very - this thing is overblown (42%).
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« Reply #69 on: April 29, 2009, 08:32:28 AM »
There is nothing to be gained by falsifying mortality rates; but government employees around the world have a convoluted way of thinking.

I'm taking this Mexican swine flu as a wake up call, just as February 28, 2007 was a stock market wake up call for those who were sleeping.  2/28/07 marked the beginning of a new era of market volatility and declines.

As reasonable as the 'engineered virus' thesis is, I prefer the accident of nature theory that places blame on industrial pig farms.  There are problems with concentration and mono-culture,.... and there are benefits.

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Re: H1N1 influenza possible pandemic alert!
« Reply #70 on: April 29, 2009, 10:43:12 AM »
http://www.abc.com.py/

A 23 month old baby died of Swine Flu in Texas.

In Argentina there were about 20 suspected cases of Swine Flu.  All but three have been dismissed via interrogation or lab tests..  There remain 3 suspected cases.

http://www.nrc.nl/international/article2227179.ece/Questions_and_answers_about_the_swine_flu

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In Mexico, 159 deaths have been reported but the number of confirmed swine flu deaths has been downgraded from twenty to seven through stricter tests. In the US, the same virus caused only mild illness. It is possible that hundred of thousands of people in Mexico were infected with the virus but only developed a regular flu. And that the doctors only saw people who developed a pneumonia as a result of the virus. The question then is what the death ratio is: one in a thousand, ten thousand, a hundred thousand of a million people?

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The last I heard, 152 deaths in Mexico were attributed to the Swine Flu.  Over night there must have been an additional 7 deaths. 

Are they now suggesting, "There were 159 deaths in Mexico.  Twenty deaths were attributed to the Swine Flu; but now only 7 of those twenty deaths were really swine flu?"

It seems this genetically recombinant flu incorporates unemployment revisions too.


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Re: H1N1 influenza possible pandemic alert!
« Reply #71 on: April 29, 2009, 12:56:15 PM »
In a move that surprised me, our countries chief medical officer encouraged the public to prepare in the same manner as it a hurricane were heading our way today.  WHich means buying non-perishable foods, securing water and supplies under the assumption that your movements could be restricted for some time.  He also predicted that it was all but inevitable that the swine flu would find its way here.  Of course to offset this wisdom he put his foot in his mouth by stating that due to our high standard of medical care, superior to that available in Mexico, there would be no deaths here.  These comments were made last night for print media today.  f course while the ink was still wet, we received word of the untimely death in the US, despite medical care "superior to that available in Mexico".

If the successive waves of infection scenario plays out, y'all definitely should be planting some "winter" (long keeping) squash now.
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« Reply #72 on: April 29, 2009, 03:54:55 PM »
I was out today and casually looking for masks and couldn't find any!  So I went to a paint store, Porter Paints, they had loads! Home Depot might have them.  Folks don't think to look for masks at hardware stores.

 
If this is really the real deal, I am glad I prepared.  The only thing I didn't have were the masks.  Garden is in, water stored, food, medicine, movies, gas, chocolate, coffee, batteries, the list is almost endless.

We do live in interesting times.

BTW, I downloaded the zip files on drum-runners, get it while you can!

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Re: H1N1 influenza possible pandemic alert!
« Reply #73 on: April 29, 2009, 05:24:42 PM »
I agree that this is a "wake up call". I don't know if anything will come of it, but with open borders and factory farms, this is a "ticking time bomb" situation. If it's not this time it could be next time. Just be ready for international pandemics.

I don't think this was engineered. It is totally contrary to their usual M.O. And the other rumor--that it was a scheme to assassinate Obama--seems counter-intuitive because it "only" has a 7% mortality rate. Assassins don't want to make him sick--they would want to KILL him and they'd use something far more potent and highly targetable, like Anthrax.
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Re: H1N1 influenza possible pandemic alert!
« Reply #74 on: April 29, 2009, 06:46:32 PM »
WHO just raised the alert level to 5 (out of 6).

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/swine_flu_world

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The World Health Organization has raised its pandemic alert for swine flu to the second highest level, meaning that it believes a global outbreak of the disease is imminent.

WHO says the phase 5 alert means there is sustained human to human spread in at least two countries. It also signals that efforts to produce a vaccine will be ramped up.


 

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