H1N1 influenza possible pandemic alert!

[Wellspring]

OK, one last interesting tidbit.  I'm not into conspiracy theories and was curious to research what's being said on both sides of the table.  I especially like blogs where individuals either irrationally defend their position or, occasionally, have a sober debate asking find fallacy in statements and asking for links to legitimate sources of statements made.  See comments below the article.

from:  http://worldofweirdthings.com/2009/04/27/so-swine-flu-is-now-a-bio-weapons-test/

exploring science, the strange and the unknown

so swine flu is now a bio-weapons test?
2009 April 27
tags: conspiracies, influenza, new world order, swine flu
by gfish

In today’s segment of news the New World Order wants to suppress if not for the power of the internet, we turn back to conspiracy websites which have informed us that swine flu is actually a biological weapon which will be used to help control the populace in due time. Apparently this current virus strain was developed in a lab as a mixture of bird, swine and human influenzas because the sort of cross-species jump we’re seeing today is just not possible in nature. And the same goes for the SARS outbreak of 2002/2003.

There’s a little snag in this theory though. It just so happens that influenza can and will jump between species living in close quarters, having done this many times in human history. Just like all viruses, influenza strains mutate very quickly and very often, eventually creating the right combination of surface proteins to lock onto a new host from a different species. The flu strain thought to have caused the 1918 pandemic was theorized to have spread from birds to domesticated swine to humans though some experts think it migrated directly from birds as an avian H1N1 subtype.

So what’s more likely to have happened? A virus with a track record of jumping from species to species took on a new form and surprised us, or a sinister government lab with billions of dollars in funding manufactured a bio-weapon for some purpose known only to them and conspiracy theorists?

Here’s another curious little factoid. The previous story about a dangerous swine flu vaccine that doesn’t yet exist and the tales of SARS as a top secret weapon that escaped the lab both got their launch from the same site; the Centre for Research on Globalization, a clearinghouse for New World Order conspiracy theories. Isn’t it odd how every crisis, problem and global scare seem to be part of a nefarious plot by faceless villains?

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   1.
      2009 April 27
      jeepndesert permalink

      you forget all the instances where the government and corporations have been caught releasing and testing bioweapons on the populace. recently, baxter was caught releasing a dual live virus in a vaccine. bayer was caught releasing HIV in a hemophiliac medication. the u.s. government radiated foster kids. then, there is the tuskagee experiment. these are all mainstream news. there are many more incidents as well.

      you have the angle of profit as well. this type of scare leads to drug sales. al gore, rumsfeld, obama, etc., are all heavily invested in these drugs.

      tamiflu in particular is interesting in that it actually weakens your immune system and makes virus more deadly in the future.

      if a crime is committed, you usually suspect the person committing the crime.
   2.
      2009 April 27
      jeepndesert permalink

      the nut jobs in denial who think big corporations and the government is good seem to completely ignore the facts:

      http://www.torontosun.com/news/canada/2009/02/27/8560781.html
   3.
      2009 April 27
      gfish permalink

      “recently, baxter was caught releasing a dual live virus in a vaccine.”

      That was an industrial accident. By the way, it was contracted to work on an avian flu vaccine and you need a live virus to inactivate it first.

      “bayer was caught releasing HIV in a hemophiliac medication”

      I’m going to need to see a link from a legitimate source. Since you say they’re all in mainstream news, I’m sure you’ll be able to provide some links.

      “the u.s. government radiated foster kids.”

      Again, I’m sure you have legitimate proof of this just laying around somewhere…

      “then, there is the tuskagee experiment.”

      That’s the only fact in your list of accusations. That was deplorable. But it wasn’t a bio-weapons experiment. It was a horrific medical research program.

      “al gore, rumsfeld, obama, etc., are all heavily invested in these drugs.”

      And your proof for this is…?

      “tamiflu in particular is interesting in that it actually weakens your immune system and makes virus more deadly in the future.”

      That’s complete and utter bunk taken from anti-vaxx propaganda. Just because someone says it, doesn’t mean it’s true. This is why I actually use references for claims.

      “if a crime is committed, you usually suspect the person committing the crime.”

      Or in your case, blame someone because it makes you feel better despite lacking either the facts or the knowledge to make the accusations you do.

[mantis308]

As a side note, I looked up our pandemic policy/plan, and according to the policy, we had to activate it when WHO declared level 4 alert today. It seemed that our policy said we had to have certain items (gloves, masks, wipes, sanitizer, etc) in stock and regularly checked, but it's never been done. When we checked the "inventory" per the plan, we found it was non-existant. Lotta people in my organization starting to freak a little, one girl went around with a can of lysol and nearly asphixiated us by spraying every usuable surface.

I've started a journal on this, since it may or may not be something.

[opsec]

http://reports.typepad.com/pandemic_plan/2006/10/using_ultraviol.html

Ultraviolet light will kill the flu virus. The lamps spoken of in this article could help should this flu turn out to really have legs. There are several good links in the article too.

Ultraviolet light is classified into three wavelength ranges:
- UV-C, from 100 to 280 nanometers (nm)
- UV-B, from 280 to 315 nm
- UV-A, from 315 to 400 nm

Within the UV-C range, sterilization lights usually generate a wavelength of 254 nanometers (or 254 billionths of a meter), which is especially effective against microorganisms

.

I just found this outfit that sells houshold and commercial UV disinfection units: http://www.ultraviolet.com/index.htm

[nwdespot]

holy moly,
i come out off the woods and my mother ask me first thing is if this thing is the one.  i tell her not to worry, she will only get sick if she flies on a flight from mex city to lax.  i don't know i am out of the loop.  is it that bad?

[The Future]

      “then, there is the tuskagee experiment.”

      That’s the only fact in your list of accusations. That was deplorable. But it wasn’t a bio-weapons experiment. It was a horrific medical research program. 

Hilarious.  I am sure the victims are feeling much better now that the label has been changed from bio-weapons experiment to horrific medical research. The magic of the left brain!

[justamom]

From the CDC's website "In the 1918–1919 pandemic, a first or spring wave began in March 1918 and spread unevenly through the United States, Europe, and possibly Asia over the next 6 months (Figure 1). Illness rates were high, but death rates in most locales were not appreciably above normal. A second or fall wave spread globally from September to November 1918 and was highly fatal. In many nations, a third wave occurred in early 1919 (21). Clinical similarities led contemporary observers to conclude initially that they were observing the same disease in the successive waves. The milder forms of illness in all 3 waves were identical and typical of influenza seen in the 1889 pandemic and in prior interpandemic years. In retrospect, even the rapid progressions from uncomplicated influenza infections to fatal pneumonia, a hallmark of the 1918–1919 fall and winter waves, had been noted in the relatively few severe spring wave cases. The differences between the waves thus seemed to be primarily in the much higher frequency of complicated, severe, and fatal cases in the last 2 waves.

But 3 extensive pandemic waves of influenza within 1 year, occurring in rapid succession, with only the briefest of quiescent intervals between them, was unprecedented."

At this point in time, I think we may just be at the tip of the iceberg.  It will be interesting to see where this goes in the next 6 months or so.  By winter (flu season 2009-10) we may have a REALLY big problem.

[Atash Hagmahani]

There are conspiracies, and then there are "conspiracy theories", which are red herrings.

Useful idiots who invent red herrings to support whatever bandwagon they've stupidly jumped onto, are the unwitting partners of people who commit REAL conspiracies. They pollute the noosphere with so many distractions and so much disinformation, that they helpfully distract attention away from real crimes and real problems.

The useful idiots helped the perpetrator of the anthrax attacks, by spreading rumors of white neonazi elites at the core of the "military industrial complex" designing bioweapons and ostensibly testing them on Africans (but then, mysteriously, only using them on white Americans). In doing so, they helped frame Steven Hatfill, who was obviously innocent and set up by a cabal of conspirators, in order to distract attention away from the one person who as actually videotaped by security cameras entering the lab without authorization, and who was caught red-handed trying to frame another colleague in order to pursue a personal and political agenda that was "too hot to handle", so they covered it up and censored the story.

http://www.thesimon.com/magazine/articles/canon_fodder/01241_philip_zack_steals_anthrax.html

[Atash Hagmahani]

I guess I wasn't quite clear.

It is true that high-ranking elites want world depopulation. That might even have to do with why the CDC and Homeland Security have done nothing to halt the spread of the epidemic.

But if so it is totally opportunistic. This does not fit their M.O. And the useful idiots spreading rumors, are all the usual suspects, with all the usual agendas of their own.

[The Future]

From the CDC's website "In the 1918–1919 pandemic, a first or spring wave began in March 1918 and spread unevenly through the United States, Europe, and possibly Asia over the next 6 months (Figure 1). Illness rates were high, but death rates in most locales were not appreciably above normal. A second or fall wave spread globally from September to November 1918 and was highly fatal. In many nations, a third wave occurred in early 1919 (21). Clinical similarities led contemporary observers to conclude initially that they were observing the same disease in the successive waves. The milder forms of illness in all 3 waves were identical and typical of influenza seen in the 1889 pandemic and in prior interpandemic years. In retrospect, even the rapid progressions from uncomplicated influenza infections to fatal pneumonia, a hallmark of the 1918–1919 fall and winter waves, had been noted in the relatively few severe spring wave cases. The differences between the waves thus seemed to be primarily in the much higher frequency of complicated, severe, and fatal cases in the last 2 waves.

But 3 extensive pandemic waves of influenza within 1 year, occurring in rapid succession, with only the briefest of quiescent intervals between them, was unprecedented."

At this point in time, I think we may just be at the tip of the iceberg.  It will be interesting to see where this goes in the next 6 months or so.  By winter (flu season 2009-10) we may have a REALLY big problem.

Very intertesting.  In case you missed it, stock up on vitamin C, NAC, plant a echinacea plant in your space.

[justamom]

What is NAC? 

[MountainMeg]

N-Acetyl-L-Cysteine.  (Man, no wonder people call it NAC instead!)  I's an antioxidant and glutathione precursor.  From the label "glutathione is an antioxidant that exerts a variety of protective effects including detoxification and intracellular defense against oxidative stress"

Future, can you expand why to have it on hand for the fle?  We give NAC to my son as a supplement for autism.  My hubby's the engineer who did all of the medical research reading so I can't say why, but we do notice a 10-20% improvement of symptoms when he's on NAC.

[Mike]

http://www.eluniversal.com.mx/notas/594198.html

Comment: 
The mayor of Mexico City has ordered the immediate closure of all restaurants, cafes, taverns, and dance halls until May 5.  However take-outs are permitted.

It is pretty clear that the city government doesn't think food is the problem.  The problem is public mingling.

Why until May 5?  Cinco de Mayo is one grand fiesta!!

This morning's Mexican death toll is at 152.  I expect another update this morning that will correspond to yesterday's 149.

[The Future]

However take-outs are permitted.

This might be more than a fruedian slip.

Mountain Meg, N-Acetyl-L-Cysteine is one of the most powerful detoxifiers around.  It has a special affinity for regenerating the liver which is a major detoxification organ.  Even hospitals, hardly known for their use of natural remedies, administer NAC after some types of overdose/poisoning events with children.  There are mountains of info on NAC but I think you get the point.  I have taken it on a daily basis for over a decade and wouldn't travel without it.  Bear in mind that it is not a magic bullet either.  It plays a part in a regime.  An important part of that regime is not being exposed.  Another is being calm whether exposed or not.  Water, vitamin C, herbs like echinacea, homeopathic remedies...all have their place.  I had a specific homeopathic remedy in mind but it escapes me at the moment.

[MountainMeg]

Well, if it helps, I mail order my son's Jarrow Formula NAC from Clark's Nutrition in Loma Linda CA.  100 tablets of 600mg sustained release for $20.95.

Anything else I should be adding to my mail order Future?

[Ryder]

http://www.drum-runners.com/
More info.