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Re: Best Place to Live Worldwide
« Reply #15 on: October 13, 2009, 12:06:15 PM »
http://articles.moneycentral.msn.com/RetirementandWills/RetireInStyle/the-worlds-best-places-to-retire.aspx

Here is the views for 2009 from folks that judge these things for a living.  Their criteria might not be the same as what folks here consider (food security anyone?) and their judgement is suspect (USA rate 100 on safety?) but it's another source of info to consider.  I wouldn't be surprised to find out somebody backing the firm had major holdings in a given city or country for sale...
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Re: Best Place to Live Worldwide
« Reply #16 on: December 07, 2009, 10:55:03 PM »
Most first-world countries are losing their civil liberties (I mean that in the original sense of the word, and not in the present-day corruption thereof--I am talking about "negative rights" not "positive rights") at an alarming pace.

If a commitment to respecting individual liberty is lacking, then your next best bet is benign neglect. Governments that are weak, and wide-open spaces, are a good bet.

All these countries have relatively low population densities. Uganda has a history within living memory of genocide, which makes me nervous. Botswana has a surprisingly high rating for lack of corruption. It is also a surprisingly prosperous country. Its worst problem is probably the 24% HIV rate. The country is also overwhelmingly desert (the Kalahari) or marshland!

Bolivia worries me for fairly overt racial tension.

If you can keep your pecker clean, should be plenty of open land soon then

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Re: Best Place to Live Worldwide
« Reply #17 on: December 07, 2009, 11:07:13 PM »
Let's all move to the Upper Congo and just vanish into the bush.
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Re: Best Place to Live Worldwide
« Reply #18 on: December 24, 2009, 01:08:43 PM »
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In a previous post I referenced econtalk.org's pretty conclusive discussion of Jamaica vs Barbados, two countries with striking similarities, except for government policy.  Results?  Jamaica's socialist government crippled economic growth while Barbados' slow growth compounded.

Many countries have vast natural resources but are impoverished while countries like Japan have flourished without natural resources, except for the 'lost decade'(s).

More important than natural resources and gold reserves and balance of trade is a countries Intangible WealthIntangible Wealth would be things like a citizenry's education, work ethic, honesty ethic.  Intangible wealth would also include the institutions of government and citizens' rights.

Negative Intangible Wealth would be government and culture that undermines wealth creation.  Obama-Care, bail-outs, war, taxation, and wealth-transfer payments are all examples of elements of Negative Intangible Wealth.

I ask myself, "Is there really a half a million bucks of intangible wealth for every person that can make it into the US?"

I think not! 

I think the world's willingness to lend money to the US is a misplaced subjective belief in US' positive intangible wealth.  US land values are also inflated by this misplaced perception of America's great intangible wealth.

http://reason.com/archives/2005/12/16/the-intangible-wealth-of-natio
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The Intangible Wealth of Nations
Why you're worth more than you think

Ronald Bailey | December 16, 2005

For the average American living in the United States is like having more than half a million dollars in wealth. So says a new study from the World Bank, Where is the Wealth of Nations?: Measuring Capital for the 21st Century, which makes estimates of the contribution of natural, produced, and intangible capital to the aggregate wealth of 120 countries.

Why are Americans so well off? It's not just because of America's fruited plains and its alabaster cities. In fact, it turns out that such natural and man-made resources comprise a relatively small percentage of our wealth.

The World Bank study begins by defining natural capital as the sum of nonrenewable resources (including oil, natural gas, coal, and mineral resources), cropland, pastureland, forested areas, and protected areas. Produced capital is what many of us think of when we think of capital. It is the sum of machinery, equipment, and structures (including infrastructure) and urban land. The Bank then identifies intangible capital as the difference between total wealth and all produced and natural capital. Intangible capital encompasses raw labor; human capital, which includes the sum of the knowledge, skills, and know-how possessed by population; as well as the level of trust in a society and the quality of its formal and informal social institutions.

Once the analytical framework is set up, what the researchers at the World Bank find is fascinating. "The most striking aspect of the wealth estimates is the high values for intangible capital. Nearly 85 percent of the countries in our sample have an intangible capital share of total wealth greater than 50 percent," write the researchers. They further note that years of schooling and a rule-of-law index can account for 90 percent of the variation in intangible capital. In other words, the more highly educated a country's people are and the more honest and fair its legal system is, the wealthier it is.

Let's consider a few cases. The country with the highest per capita wealth is Switzerland at $648,000. The United States is fourth at $513,000. Overall, the average per capita wealth in the rich Organization for Economic Cooperation Development (OECD) countries is $440,000. By contrast, the countries with the lowest per capita wealth are Ethiopia ($1,965), Nigeria ($2,748), and Burundi ($2,859). In fact, some countries are so badly run, that they actually have negative intangible capital. Through rampant corruption and failing school systems, Nigeria and the Republic of the Congo are destroying wealth and ensuring that they will be poorer in the future.

Perhaps one way to think about what it means for the average wealth in the United States to be $513,000 per capita is to think about how much income that wealth produces annually. Not surprisingly, countries with high levels of wealth per capita also produce high levels of income per capita. For instance, in purchasing power parity terms, the United States per capita income is $41,500 annually. This yields roughly an 8 percent return on average wealth.

By comparison, the World Bank study finds that total wealth for the low income countries averages $7,216 per person. That consists of $2,075 in natural capital; $1,150 in produced capital; and $3,991 in intangible capital. By contrast, the average wealth per capita in OECD countries of $440,000 consists of $9,531 in natural capital, $76,193 in produced capital; and a whopping $353,339 in intangible capital.

So if every American has $513,000 in capital, where is it? The vast majority of it is amassed in our political and economic institutions and our educations. The natural wealth in rich countries like the U.S. is a tiny proportion of their overall wealth—typically 1 to 3 percent—yet they have higher amounts of natural capital than poor countries. Cropland, pastures and forests are more valuable in rich countries because they can be combined with other capital like machinery and strong property rights to produce more value. Machinery, buildings, roads, and so forth account for 17 percent of the rich countries' total wealth. And 80 percent of the wealth of rich countries consists of intangible capital. "Rich countries are largely rich because of the skills of their populations and the quality of the institutions supporting economic activity," argues the World Bank study.

As noted above, 90 percent of intangible capital is accounted for by years of schooling and the rule of law. On average, the rule of law explains 57 percent of countries' intangible capital while schooling accounts for 36 percent. The World Bank has devised a rule-of-law index that measures the extent to which people have confidence in and abide by the rules of their society. An economy with a very efficient judicial system, clear property rights, and an effective government will produce higher total wealth.

On the World Bank's rule-of-law index, the United States scores 92 out of a possible 100. The Swiss are even more law-abiding, achieving a score of 99 out of 100. By contrast, Nigeria's rule-of-law index score is a pitiful 4.8; Burundi's 4.3; and Ethiopia's 16.4. The OECD's average score is 90, while sub-Saharan Africa's is 28.

The World Bank study notes, "A one-point increase in the rule of law index (on a 100-point scale) boosts total wealth by over $100 in low-income countries, over $400 in middle-income countries, and nearly $3,000 in high-income countries." So if Nigeria were somehow overnight to become as punctilious as Switzerland, its wealth would rise to $12,168 per person, a $9,420 increase that would more than quadruple the average Nigerian's wealth. If Americans were to become 100 percent law abiding, our wealth would increase by $24,000, or little more than 5 percent.

The report also calculates that a one-year increase in the mean level of schooling in low income countries increases a country's intangible capital by $838 per person. This means that poor countries can get a really big bang for their education buck, since they now spend only $51 per student per year in primary school.

Where is the Wealth of Nations? convincingly shows what countries need to do to create wealth and lift billions of people out of abject poverty. Establish the rule of law and educate people. The big question that the World Bank researchers don't answer is : How can the people of the developing world rid themselves of the kleptocrats who loot their countries and keep them poor?

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Re: Best Place to Live Worldwide
« Reply #19 on: January 03, 2010, 06:55:58 AM »
Interestling thinking.  I was at a seminar a while back that tried to promote similar thinking - that the intangible assets of an organization are taking on a increasing proportion of their net worth.  Trends now indicate as much as 80% of a firms market capitilization is related to intangible.  They were speaking quite proudly of this and urging firms to develop the talent within their people.  Makes sense but....if I were at them, I would be concerned that's wealthh so much of the market cap or country's wealth were intangible.  While for now that seems good - countries with much lower tangible worth are living much better than other based on a difference in credibility - we should easily be able to see hoe fragile sucha situation is.

I seperately noted how some countries take on unimaginable amounts of debt and thrive (US) while others take on debt and are burdened by it (Jamaica).  What is the difference?  Credibility.  And credibility comes on the back or not just marketing hype - perhaps the biggest intangible the US has is to convince many of the world that they are great and worth aspiring to while crumbling at the same time - but also on military strength.  At last check the official US budget was over $1 million a minute, what do you think Jamaica's was?

What does it say about a country that they have to spend $1m a minute on military?  That their credibility is on the wane and increasingly hostile measures are required to prop up the emptiness posing as wealth.  This emptiness bcked by military strength brings "cheap" (I.e. untold hidden costs!) access to material items and this the appearances that the whole scheme has worked.

This is not to say the corruption resulting in negative intagible wealth is any good, to the contrary.  But it must be seen as merely a failed attempt to do what the US and others have done successfully.  The outcome can be vastly different.  Kill a person, you are a murderer.  Kill a whole people, you are a conqueror.

What the "poorer" nations have failed to do is be corrupt on a massive scale yet be unnoticed in doing so.  Quiet as it is kept, the US is among the most corrupt of nations - they just manage to spin it (who else can openly talk on broadcast tee vee about assainating democratcally elected leaders?).

So war might actually be a cost (negative) creating massive intangible wealth (positive) if do on the right scale and even with the just credible threat being an outcome.  I actually do think the negative intangible wealth of half a mill per person - when a highway can cost $1mill per foot, what isn't possible - and this is on the back of accessing materials from destabalized material rich countries.  And this is not to mention hand picked leaders of such countries and acts to deliberately keep poorer countries unstable.  If all countries "got it together" that would mean huge decline in living standard for those that "have it together" now.  So it is more than education and rule of law....as nice as that sounds. 

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Re: Best Place to Live Worldwide
« Reply #20 on: January 03, 2010, 11:49:05 AM »
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And this is not to mention hand picked leaders of such countries and acts to deliberately keep poorer countries unstable.  If all countries "got it together" that would mean huge decline in living standard for those that "have it together" now.

It shouldn't be this way.  But it is.

I am remind of yesterday's thread where Indian corporations pay Ethiopian laborers $.70/day.  It seems that is a little beyond the line of 'mutually beneficial.'

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Re: Best Place to Live Worldwide
« Reply #21 on: January 03, 2010, 03:00:04 PM »
Yet, how limited would each of us be if we did not purchase goods and services produced with these levels of wages.  And if we are measuring standard of living for those providing the labour what factors do we use for both cost and price items.

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« Reply #22 on: January 04, 2010, 09:00:50 AM »
Under the current situation yes.  But it doesn't have to be this way.  We have been unwitting participants in a utterly lopsided system and it delivers ease on one side and a hard life to the other.  I write this from the comfort of the easy side of course. 

At the risk of being mistaken for having some political or philosophical agenda, I ask, what would happen if someone magically deliver fair wages around the world?
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Re: Best Place to Live Worldwide
« Reply #23 on: February 10, 2010, 12:11:36 PM »
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At the risk of being mistaken for having some political or philosophical agenda, I ask, what would happen if someone magically deliver fair wages around the world?

Imagine a world where individuals have a right to travel where they want without restriction; and a right to offer their labor wherever they go, without restriction.  And where producers and marketers have a right to sell everywhere, free from taxes, tariffs and restriction.

The magic of a truly free market, worldwide, would probably deliver fair wages. 


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« Reply #24 on: February 10, 2010, 01:15:08 PM »
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At the risk of being mistaken for having some political or philosophical agenda, I ask, what would happen if someone magically deliver fair wages around the world?

If somebody did have the power to magically deliver fair wages around the world, they would necessarily have the power to take away those wages too. That somebody would proceed to use that power as a political lever to control entire populations. That somebody would be the first true world dictator in human history.
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« Reply #25 on: February 10, 2010, 02:48:51 PM »
how about if the enforcer was strong social more? instead of a person? What if there was such strong social support for an honest money system and honesty all around that fair wages were the result? What if at the end of the week your contractor presented you a bill for his labor and you argued that he had not charged you enough because you wanted to live in an honest world? What then?

honest dealings with all other humans could reslut in something VERY different than what we have now. Honesty does not require a cop. Ethics is what you do when nobody else is watching.

Are you honest in all dealings with all people? What would happen if that concept spread? hmmm morals? can they be taught?

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« Reply #26 on: February 10, 2010, 08:15:46 PM »
If each of us were to see our own honesty in our own dealings as in our own better interest; and, chose to transact as far as is possible only with others who display like-minded thinking about their own better interest; then the practice would spread.  Perhaps even go viral.

I say this not because of rose colored virtual glasses; but, rather due to the noticeable reduction in actual work required to deal with people I trust.  Verbal contracts where fairness is presumed due to history are endlessly less time and money consuming than the chronic monitoring, drafting of language and renegotiating due to standards deficiencies of the less than trustworthy at the other end deals.

I read a published letter of reference recently.  It was for a young man who was emigrating from the UK to the colonies in New England during the 1700s.  It was written by the decans of his church in the UK and confirmed his lack of criminal activities, that he was debt free, had no known marriages (legal or otherwise), has completed an apprenticeship to the satisfaction of his employer and asked that the receiving congregation receive him as being in good standing.

I cannot say I have ever seen such an introduction in my lifetime.         

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« Reply #27 on: February 11, 2010, 11:38:13 AM »
Under the current situation yes.  But it doesn't have to be this way.  We have been unwitting participants in a utterly lopsided system and it delivers ease on one side and a hard life to the other.  I write this from the comfort of the easy side of course. 

At the risk of being mistaken for having some political or philosophical agenda, I ask, what would happen if someone magically deliver fair wages around the world?

Ok let me try my best to eliminate the misdirection and get us back on topic:


At the risk of being mistaken for having some political or philosophical agenda, I ask, what would happen if fair wages existed around the world?
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« Reply #28 on: February 12, 2010, 11:40:22 AM »
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Russ Winters of wallstreetexaminer.com fame,spent the last two winters in Brazil.  After two winters of continuous effort to learn Portuguese, he left. 

His critique?  Only 20% of Brazilians are educated to the level of a 'normal' American.  Most have never heard a foreign accent.

He is now in Hawaii.

The take-away is that the culture and sentiment of the citizenry is really important.

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Re: Best Place to Live Worldwide
« Reply #29 on: February 12, 2010, 01:03:40 PM »
The Brazilians should thank God!
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