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Re: Best Place to Live Worldwide
« Reply #30 on: February 12, 2010, 02:02:27 PM »
The Brazilians should thank God!

Nice.  The world doesn't need Americans, collectively or individually.

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Re: Best Place to Live Worldwide
« Reply #31 on: April 06, 2010, 09:43:54 AM »
The Brazilians should thank God!

I'm afraid the Brazilians didn't notice, or care, that he left. 

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Develop a list of countries that would be prospects.  I have spent a lot of time reading about Paraguay.  In spite of all my reading, I am not convinced it would be the best place to go to.  It has a huge surplus of electricity & is next to Bolivia that is sort-of the Saudi Arabia of rare earths.

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What criteria do I look at?
1)  A government incapable of enslaving its population (or one that, in reality guarantees liberty and freedom)
2)  A government that does NOT have a bunch of programs
3)  A government that has little or no debt.
4)  A government that does NOT have a top-down Command & Control economy

I've just eliminated: Canada, US, Venezuela, Cuba, Argentina, Uruguay, China, N. Korea, Japan, England, Australia, New Zealand,and probably Ecuador, and probably Singapore.

5) I want Cheap Labor and Cheap Land and Free Markets (as opposed to the meaningless: "Free Trade".

That eliminates Europe, Mexico, and Costa Rica, and probably Panama.

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Re: Best Place to Live Worldwide
« Reply #32 on: April 06, 2010, 10:54:30 AM »
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The Brazilians should thank God!


I'm afraid the Brazilians didn't notice, or care, that he left. 

Brazillians are very self centered for the most part, meaning they don't really want or care to learn other languages nor are they really interested in things going on outside their country really.
In other words if you aren't brazillian, they don't care to help you 'cause it's too much work for them to understand and communicate for them.

Mike, sounds like what you want doesn't exist, unless you stake out a claim in Antartica........
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Re: Best Place to Live Worldwide
« Reply #33 on: April 06, 2010, 11:21:00 PM »
Mike, I admire your high standards but I fear that no country is likely to live up to them.

My thinking on a strategy for finding refuge has evolved. I am now considering a multi-phase approach, whereby immediate access to food and security is the first part of the plan; regrouping, reorganizing, and refinancing the 2nd; and finding the best offer the 3rd.
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Re: Best Place to Live Worldwide
« Reply #34 on: April 06, 2010, 11:56:44 PM »
What the "poorer" nations have failed to do is be corrupt on a massive scale yet be unnoticed in doing so.  Quiet as it is kept, the US is among the most corrupt of nations - they just manage to spin it (who else can openly talk on broadcast tee vee about assasinating democratically elected leaders?).

Wow. I'm just visiting this thread for the first time, and you just made my evening.

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So war might actually be a cost (negative) creating massive intangible wealth (positive) if do on the right scale and even with the just credible threat being an outcome.

That makes sense historically. So long as the public is convinced in the legitimacy of military spending (e.g., marketing concepts like "balance of power"), the MIC can be seen to serve a role in preservation and measurement of wealth. Once again it all comes down to faith.

Western countries are moving into a phase of totalitarianism. You won't find the ideal country until the local middle class is destroyed and government is collapsed and rebuilt. Attractive opportunities will surface in different places at different times. One possible track might be to follow big money...

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Re: Best Place to Live Worldwide
« Reply #35 on: April 07, 2010, 12:56:44 AM »
Lore, I think there are 2 kinds of "big money":

* the connected rich. The majority of the dynasties that date from the Great Depression to the present.
* the unconnected rich. Bill Gates, Warren Buffet, Slim Pickens, Steve Jobs, etc. Upstarts dating from commodity boom of the 1970s, and the software industry of the 1980s.

The unconnected rich want to be the connected rich. I have a feeling that this explains some of Gates, Buffet's, and Picken's reprehensible behaviors and attitudes as of late. The whole situation reminds me of something straight out of "Atlas Shrugged", where a high fraction of the offspring of industrialists and capitalists (eg, James Taggart) joined the socialistic syndicate that was forming around shady deals in smoky back-rooms.

The connected rich are already essentially a mafia, and becoming ever more so.

The only rich who would have a strong incentive to run for it are the unconnected rich. Jim Rogers has already seen the writing on the wall and offshored himself. The rest of them think they've got a place at the table.

I think as far as North America is concerned, we need to think in terms of Mafias and Nomenklaturas. Consider the late-stage Soviet Union, that had secret crime-syndicate billionaires most people in the western countries had no idea existed, or on a smaller scale, Cuba with its millions living in squalor, and a crime syndicate ruling class living in luxury.

The Mafias and Nomenklaturas will have no need to run for it, because they will be protected from the high taxes and increasingly draconian laws and regulations. What they might possibly do if things get too bad, is what the Cuban mafia does: sends their princesses overseas to enjoy a more pleasant life, while Mom and Dad stay behind in the hellhole they created, to continue making money.

One thing to consider, too, is that while the middle class will be annihilated, the ranks of the rich will be thinned as well, necessarily, as the pie shrinks. For a while I have been posting about celebrities who are now financially ruined, such as Annie Liebowitz (sp?) (her art is now largely in hock as collateral against loans to try to salvage her leveraged participation in the real estate bubble: and the worst possible investments, too: luxury use assets, that produce NO income). My point was and remains that a lot of rich will fall from the heights.

I suggest that unless you, personally, have a significant personal fortune to work with, that you will probably need to retrench and reorganize before pursuing those "attractive opportunities". I suspect, too, that travel and relocation will become greater challenges in the future, than they have been for the past few decades.

I suggest too that you might want to recruit partners to organize with. For example, it is hard for the little guys to establish offshore investments, but it becomes easier when there is enough pooled wealth to exceed the necessary thresholds.
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Re: Best Place to Live Worldwide
« Reply #36 on: April 07, 2010, 10:45:50 AM »
Great post, Atash. There's a lot there that fits with my reading.

'Connection' also comes in degrees. (Ahem.) And the principles of a herd apply such that those in the outer circles will get consumed first.

"What do the people do? You can beat them. You can starve them, and do they turn and revolt? No, they turn and eat their dead". - Zbigniew Brzezinski

Elites are people too.  :rolleyes008:

Maybe "follow the money" could be rephrased as "follow the prosperity." Look to countries with strong currencies. Capital is flowing to nations that stand to benefit from rising commodity prices. Those should also be nations where personal freedom lasts longer, where medical programs and infrastructure are maintained, etc.
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Re: Best Place to Live Worldwide
« Reply #37 on: April 22, 2010, 07:39:55 AM »
Long ago, somewhere on this forum offdalip mentioned Guatemala as a prospect.

Russ Winters has moved from Hawaii to Augustina, Guatemala.  He says that the people make every effort to understand, and to make themselves understood.

http://wallstreetexaminer.com/podcasts/rf041910pv.mp3

The podcast continues with Winters asking if the US is going to be a civil society with the rule of law, or a corrupt society dominated by wealth-transfer schemes?

We've had: AIG Bail Out, Fannie & Freddie Bail Out, Bank Bail Outs, Ethanol Boondoggle, Blue Sky Windmills, & a Carbon Tax topping.  I guess Winters' question is well placed, but not prescient. 

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Maybe "follow the money" could be rephrased as "follow the prosperity." Look to countries with strong currencies. Capital is flowing to nations that stand to benefit from rising commodity prices. Those should also be nations where personal freedom lasts longer, where medical programs and infrastructure are maintained, etc.

In considering Paraguay, I was trying to front-run the money movement.  Actually, money is already flowing into Paraguay, Brazilian money to develop soy, sugar and sesame.

How about Guatemala?

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Re: Best Place to Live Worldwide
« Reply #38 on: April 22, 2010, 08:37:16 AM »
I've been to the highlands of Belize and also briefly to the Guatamalean border right across.

I really really liked the area, lotsa mennonites put stakes down there. I don't know if money is flowing
into the area. Looks very peaceful and not too developed. It would be one of my first choices behind
the Columbia river area or SE AK or Vancouver BC and north. Hey, I'm up by the Columbia gorge this weekend! Yeeha!
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Re: Best Place to Live Worldwide
« Reply #39 on: April 25, 2010, 07:25:16 AM »
http://freestateproject.org/
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There's no better place for freedom-loving Americans than New Hampshire... In a vote that ended in September 2003, FSP participants chose New Hampshire because it has the lowest state and local tax burden in the continental U.S., the second-lowest level of dependence on federal spending in the U.S., a citizen legislature where state house representatives have not raised their $100 per year salary since 1889, the lowest crime levels in the U.S., a dynamic economy with plenty of jobs and investment, and a culture of individual responsibility indicated by, for example, an absence of seatbelt and helmet requirements for adults.

Comment: The Freedom Project's choice of NH sounds good.  But does not solve the problem of living under the yoke of the federal govt.  NH may be a good place for residency while actually living in a foreign country.

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« Reply #40 on: April 25, 2010, 12:02:53 PM »
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Hampshire

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« Reply #41 on: April 25, 2010, 12:36:32 PM »
What are NH's gun laws like? That's the real litmus test for me.
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« Reply #42 on: April 25, 2010, 01:32:05 PM »
http://www.gencourt.state.nh.us/rsa/html/XII/159/159-6.htm

Apparently one needs a good reason to carry a loaded gun, like target practice.

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TITLE XII
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    I. The selectmen of a town or the mayor or chief of police of a city or some full-time police officer designated by them respectively, upon application of any resident of such town or city, or the director of state police, or some person designated by such director, upon application of a nonresident, shall issue a license to such applicant authorizing the applicant to carry a loaded pistol or revolver in this state for not less than 4 years from the date of issue, if it appears that the applicant has good reason to fear injury to the applicant's person or property or has any proper purpose, and that the applicant is a suitable person to be licensed. Hunting, target shooting, or self-defense shall be considered a proper purpose. The license shall be valid for all allowable purposes regardless of the purpose for which it was originally issued. The license shall be in duplicate and shall bear the name, address, description, and signature of the licensee. The original shall be delivered to the licensee and the duplicate shall be preserved by the people issuing the same for 4 years. When required, license renewal shall take place within the month of the fourth anniversary of the license holder's date of birth following the date of issuance. The license shall be issued within 14 days after application, and, if such application is denied, the reason for such denial shall be stated in writing, the original of which such writing shall be delivered to the applicant, and a copy kept in the office of the person to whom the application was made. The fee for licenses issued to residents of the state shall be $10, which fee shall be for the use of the law enforcement department of the town or city granting said licenses; the fee for licenses granted to out-of-state residents shall be $100, which fee shall be for the use of the state. The director of state police is hereby authorized and directed to prepare forms for the licenses required under this chapter and forms for the application for such licenses and to supply the same to officials of the cities and towns authorized to issue the licenses. No other forms shall be used by officials of cities and towns. The cost of the forms shall be paid out of the fees received from nonresident licenses.
    II. No photograph or fingerprint shall be required or used as a basis to grant, deny, or renew a license to carry for a resident or nonresident, unless requested by the applicant.

Source. 1923, 118:6. PL 149:6. 1941, 172:1. RL 179:6. 1951, 151:3. RSA 159:6. 1959, 100:1. 1967, 220:4. 1977, 563:76. 1979, 355:1. 1993, 27:1; 203:1. 1994, 257:1; 257:2. 1996, 167:2, eff. Aug. 2, 1996. 2003, 90:1, eff. July 29, 2003. 2009, 144:194, eff. July 1, 2009.

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Re: Best Place to Live Worldwide
« Reply #43 on: April 25, 2010, 07:08:39 PM »
What are NH's gun laws like? That's the real litmus test for me.
No Castle Doctrine law unfortunately, but the carry laws look OK.  And they do honor Colorado CCW permits.  :eatdrink004:

http://handgunlaw.us/states/newhampshire.pdf

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« Reply #44 on: April 25, 2010, 08:14:58 PM »
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or self-defense shall be considered a proper purpose.

This is what I wanted to see.
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