FIVE COMMON MISTAKES IN PREPARATIONS

[hancocs]

If I offended anyone with my comments please except my apologies. It was not my intent at all. 

[opsec]

I'm not trying to pick on Mormons either. The discussion just briefly gravitated towards mormonism and I threw in my .02 cents. No offense.

[oscar615]

Me either.  And I do like the Mormons stand on preparations and taking care of their own.

[Rusty Shackelford]

Like  I said, except for me being an Atheist, the religious characteristics I most identify with is Mormonism. 

[Gratefully]

   Just for the record, I am not offended. I have learned to expect very high standards from this board. My reply was primarily to correct incorrect information, not a result of any perceived hostility or animosity.  I have been reading the posts here for a while and don’t find the ego-driven anger/fear/hatred (or blatant ignorance) so common on the internet these days.
   As a convert to the L.D.S. church I have heard (probably) all the misinformation out there. At one point in my life that’s where I was also . I looked it all up before I joined as part of the research during the time I was investigating and found there were things I hadn’t imagined. I joined for reasons that seem good to me and recognize that others will see it differently. Hearing it repeated is not an occasion for offense. I can, really, see that these comments were made as we all make comments when speaking in a known group, sharing among ourselves.
   I realize conversations sometimes veer off into unexpected directions. This is inevitable among people whose brains still work and who have an interest in life.(Levity and seeming casualness are defenses we don’t dare relinquish.) This one happened to veer in my direction so I spoke up. I apologize if I came across as angry or condemnatory. I’m still working on repairing damage done to my social skills set during my upbringing and sometimes present with more intensity than is warranted.

It's not your father's religion.
   I will say this is probably the coolest thing I have ever heard said about us. With your permission I may use it myself.
                       Grateful for my problems, because the struggle keeps me alive.

[Ozark Lady]

Hmmm.
We have a hahsa, it is an external building that vents heat under the floors of our house... it is fueled by a wood burner.  Keeps the floors nice, and the pipes from freezing, not used unless below 32 degrees.

We also have an antique woodburning cookstove.  It has a 5"x5"x12" firebox, boy is that hard to build a fire in.
I have been trying to practice with it all winter, and still can't seem to build a miniature fire!  I do great on the regular woodburner!  After reading this, we won't remove, I will go back to the drawing board to learn to do this!  But, honest, my toaster oven has a larger oven on it!

We have a propane cookstove, for most of our cooking, and kerosene heat for the house, backed up by electric heat.

Of course, we have the microwave, toaster oven, and various electric appliances... crock pot, electric wok, etc.
We needed redundancy, when power goes out it is often out for weeks, before they repair it.
When I run out of propane, I am not strong enough to change the bottle over.


My husband watched this video:  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qhwQt1tJYa8

and has thought it over, plans on a battery drill to start the generator, and then use the generator to recharge the drill, and he plans to enlarge the design to power more than just one light bulb.
He has already picked up a generator that the carburetor went out on.    What do y'all think?

[ADSmith]

My husband watched this video:  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qhwQt1tJYa8

and has thought it over, plans on a battery drill to start the generator, and then use the generator to recharge the drill, and he plans to enlarge the design to power more than just one light bulb.
He has already picked up a generator that the carburetor went out on.    What do y'all think?

This is definitely a hoax, just like *almost* all of 10's of thousands of perpetual motion/overunity machine claims that have been made.

The only one that I am optimistic about currently is this: http://peswiki.com/index.php/Directory:Andrea_A._Rossi_Cold_Fusion_Generator
It's not really a perpetual motion or overunity machine, but simply a new technology for performing a nuclear reaction.  Their reactor apparently puts out 10kw of power for 6months before needing a recharge of hydrogen and specially treated nickel fuel.  Creates only very low levels of radiation energy while operating that is easily shielded against and no radioactive waste.

[offdalip]

The only one that I am optimistic about currently is this: http://peswiki.com/index.php/Directory:Andrea_A._Rossi_Cold_Fusion_Generator
It's not really a perpetual motion or overunity machine, but simply a new technology for performing a nuclear reaction.

sorry to burst your bubble but this is not cold fusion at all.

this is a very well known chemical reaction for hundred years/
It is used industrially to store hydrogen gas as a "solid" and then release it
when the time comes. It does not produce more energy than input.

several metals do this, Ni, Pt, Pd

[ADSmith]

The only one that I am optimistic about currently is this: http://peswiki.com/index.php/Directory:Andrea_A._Rossi_Cold_Fusion_Generator
It's not really a perpetual motion or overunity machine, but simply a new technology for performing a nuclear reaction.

sorry to burst your bubble but this is not cold fusion at all.

this is a very well known chemical reaction for hundred years/
It is used industrially to store hydrogen gas as a "solid" and then release it
when the time comes. It does not produce more energy than input.

several metals do this, Ni, Pt, Pd

You might want to read the information in the link before you so casually dismiss it.  This device is completely different from the technique you refer to and has nothing to do with hydrogen storage.  The nickel removed from a spent device reportedly contains about 30% copper, and there is a relatively low level of radiation produced, which would definitely indicate some form of nuclear reaction is taking place.  The reaction chamber is completely sealed after fueling and the energy released is in the form of heat.  The inventors do not call this cold fusion either, but a Low Energy Nuclear Reaction.  They are currently in some form of partnership with the University of Bologna to study and attempt to better explain the physics of the reaction, but are also reportedly already commencing production of a 1MW commercial power generation facility using the technology.  Only time will tell if this is the real deal or not, but, if it is, it will be a major world changer for sure.

[offdalip]

I am not casually dismissing it. I am calling it a sham.

Mixing hydrogen and nickel WILL cause the hydrogen to be trapped by the nickel.

this WILL not transmute Nickel into Copper and will not cause radiation.

BTW, Ni is atomic number 28 and Cu is number 29, H is 1. They want you to believe they are combining
Ni + H = 29 Cu


I am sure the scientists are looking for money

[ADSmith]

this WILL not transmute Nickel into Copper and will not cause radiation.

Not by any process (or physics) that is currently understood, but that does not necessarily make it untrue.  Like I said - time will tell whether it is a scam or something totally different.

[Beeherder]

ADS is this the technology that Gerald Celente predicts will be one of the game changers in the alternative energy world? If this one works, good, if not let us learn from that and keep looking. Not every energy source has been discovered already any more than everything was already invented in 1900 as the head of the US patent office at the time believed.

Now if new energy source discovery and invention weren't suppressed maybe that would help. All power is political power, and that is what tptb like about centralized generation/distribution systems.

Reclaiming french fry grease to make biodiesel may not solve the world's energy problems but it just might allow me to create a one or two year supply of stored fuel likely to be useful in a world of increasing petroleum prices. So without leaving my property i could use the vehicle motor to charge the engine batteries so that an inexpensive inverter can be used to power my chest freezer for two hours per day, not necessarily continuous for two hours, maybe 30 minutes at a time over the 18 hours of wakefulness.

[spacecase0]

this WILL not transmute Nickel into Copper and will not cause radiation.

Not by any process (or physics) that is currently understood, but that does not necessarily make it untrue.  Like I said - time will tell whether it is a scam or something totally different.

they are supposedly reacting 2 H atoms together, and the nickle is just the catalyst,
the thing that makes it hard to build is that the nickel gets messed up easy and stops doing it's job as a catalyst quick,
so his method had figured out a way around this.

you can take 2 nickles and connect off wires, put them in a calorimeter with water, connect off a 9V battery and measure how much electricity goes in,
then see how much the water heats up, lots of people have done it to verify that something is going on more than chemistry

either way, he is selling them now, and
we should know what is going on soon if people keep using them